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Re: angstonomicon

by Jonah Thomas <jethomas5@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 25, 2008 at 06:50 AM

Catawumpus <kimmerian@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Jonah Thomas <jethomas5@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>:
> 
> > at that point I was demoli****ng your arguments. Of course I used
> 
>      You of course used a blatantly false analogy to excuse the 
> Almighty's evil-doing, comparing the Lord and Maker of the 
> world with a human being working beneath its constraints.  Pure
> stupidity.
 
You're still here? You still haven't noticed that you (and Job etc) from
the start used the blatantly false analogy of justice between humans and
other humans compared to justice between humans and gods. 

You thought of a god like a human merchant who provides services to
humans, who owes humans a refund or replacement if they complain about
his product. You assumed on no  basis whatsoever that a god has
obligations to his creations. And the obligation you assumed is
equivalent to making them happy all the time, or at least never let them
experience anything unpleasant. The word you used was "suffering" but
you demanded a complete lack of suffering, 

You further conflated pain and suffering, which are two different
things. (Though a lot of people make that mistake. Pain is something you
get from nerve endings. Suffering is what you get when you want
something to be different and you can't figure out how to make it
happen. People believe that pain leads to suffering because they
generally want pain to stop and they don't know how to shut it off.)

You were utterly unwilling to examine your assumptions to see how you
made these mistakes. But you got boring. I doubt anybody's paying
attention any more except me, and I'm rapidly losing interest. I'm sort
of bemused that you keep responding the same way. Surely everybody sees
how stupid you're being, but you keep insisting on it as if you, alone,
don't see.
 




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"bukvich@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-18 16:35:12 
Re: angstonomicon
Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-04-18 21:27:16 
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STEAL THIS SANDWICH <t  2008-04-19 07:59:30 
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"Bipolar Troll"  2008-05-25 21:18:22 
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"Bipolar Troll"  2008-04-21 18:48:16 
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SANDWICH BUBBLE <thein  2008-04-21 21:20:41 
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SANDWICH BUBBLE <thein  2008-04-22 10:23:53 
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"Bipolar Troll"  2008-05-25 21:23:12 
Defining Terms (was: Re: angstonomicon)
"Bipolar Troll"  2008-05-25 21:08:04 
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Catawumpus <kimmerian@  2008-04-19 08:09:17 
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"Bipolar Troll"  2008-04-21 18:50:46 
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DARK SIDE OF THE SANDWICH  2008-04-19 07:09:21 
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STEAL THIS SANDWICH <t  2008-04-19 08:30:52 
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Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-04-19 11:12:44 
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Catawumpus <kimmerian@  2008-04-20 07:45:35 
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STEAL THIS SANDWICH <t  2008-04-20 08:26:11 
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Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-04-20 09:01:31 
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Catawumpus <kimmerian@  2008-04-21 05:31:29 
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"Bipolar Troll"  2008-05-25 21:32:21 
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Catawumpus <kimmerian@  2008-06-02 06:41:55 
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"Bipolar Troll"  2008-05-25 21:28:47 
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Catawumpus <kimmerian@  2008-06-02 06:44:04 
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Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-04-20 10:26:26 
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STEAL THIS SANDWICH <t  2008-04-21 08:08:35 
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Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-04-21 21:10:41 
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Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-04-21 21:13:34 
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Catawumpus <kimmerian@  2008-04-22 05:44:57 
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SANDWICH BUBBLE <thein  2008-04-22 10:26:57 
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Catawumpus <kimmerian@  2008-04-23 05:39:24 
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Numinous Cacogen <mlid  2008-04-23 06:38:18 
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Catawumpus <kimmerian@  2008-04-24 05:41:29 
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"Bipolar Troll"  2008-05-25 21:39:20 
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Catawumpus <kimmerian@  2008-06-02 06:39:40 
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"Bipolar Troll"  2008-05-25 21:46:09 
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Catawumpus <kimmerian@  2008-06-02 06:38:32 
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Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-04-23 10:17:06 
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Catawumpus <kimmerian@  2008-04-24 05:38:03 
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"Bipolar Troll"  2008-05-25 21:50:31 
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Catawumpus <kimmerian@  2008-06-02 06:36:30 
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micaiela@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-04-23 10:07:19 
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bob <thanatos@[EMAIL P  2008-04-24 22:20:14 
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Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-04-24 07:43:13 
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Catawumpus <kimmerian@  2008-04-25 05:49:07 
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Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-04-25 00:40:05 
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Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-04-25 06:50:06 
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Catawumpus <kimmerian@  2008-04-26 06:33:03 
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HURDS OF SANDWICHES <t  2008-04-26 08:58:38 
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bob <thanatos@[EMAIL P  2008-04-26 13:54:15 
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HURDS OF SANDWICHES <t  2008-04-26 17:32:27 
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Catawumpus <kimmerian@  2008-04-27 05:57:08 
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bob <thanatos@[EMAIL P  2008-04-27 17:36:44 
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Catawumpus <kimmerian@  2008-04-28 06:53:27 
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Catawumpus <kimmerian@  2008-04-27 05:49:28 
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Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-04-26 07:45:00 
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Catawumpus <kimmerian@  2008-04-27 05:55:02 
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Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-04-26 19:28:41 
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THE UNLIMITED SANDWICH FA  2008-04-27 16:21:16 
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"bukvich@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-27 16:01:56 
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Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-05-28 09:05:13 
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Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-06-02 17:37:17 
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Catawumpus <kimmerian@  2008-06-03 07:35:55 
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pataphor <pataphor@[EM  2008-06-03 07:59:08 
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Catawumpus <kimmerian@  2008-06-03 07:45:56 
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Catawumpus <kimmerian@  2008-06-03 07:50:01 
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Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-06-03 22:56:02 
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Catawumpus <kimmerian@  2008-06-04 07:47:41 
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pataphor <pataphor@[EM  2008-06-04 11:59:02 
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Catawumpus <kimmerian@  2008-06-05 07:29:01 
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pataphor <pataphor@[EM  2008-06-05 10:20:46 
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Catawumpus <kimmerian@  2008-06-06 07:36:23 
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Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-06-04 10:18:24 
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Catawumpus <kimmerian@  2008-06-05 07:21:02 
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pataphor <pataphor@[EM  2008-06-06 11:23:59 
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Catawumpus <kimmerian@  2008-06-06 20:39:48 
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pataphor <pataphor@[EM  2008-06-07 09:48:46 
Re: angstonomicon
Catawumpus <kimmerian@  2008-06-07 10:42:11 

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