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Re: getting to the point I'm no fun anymore

by Catawumpus <kimmerian@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 2, 2008 at 06:31 AM

bukvich@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 <bukvich@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>:

> That life on this earth can be a nasty beast is given. What is up in
> the air is can you finesse the system by trusting in our savior always
> even though it is clear he will not come through always?

     Uh-huh.  So "Let's pretend things might work out this time 
if we get lucky," the statement Reik condescends to, is an
accurate description of the strategy, even though he does a wax
and wash producing "It improves our chances at success to 
presume we will win," if I can count on the paraphrase that you
gave.

> Does a
> positive attitude or a negative attitude materially matter? Yeah or
> nay? I say that I do not know the answer to that, but oh by the way
these
> scientists have done experiments to address the question and their
> consensus is yeah. And they have evidence. Results. Data.

     Then you should be happy, since you're the empiricist here.
Ipecac to me, efficacy to you.  Which brings us back to my 
earlier suggestion, pretend things might work out next time and 
see if you get lucky.

> >      Asked and answered.

> Not to me.

     Yeah, to you.  You asked me what's wrong with the doctored
optimism you're talking about, and by now I've answered 
several times, going back to your post about Reik:  shallow and
trivializing, willfully self-deceptive, wax-job, PR-speak 
concealing unreliability, etc.:  "Keep on the Sunny Side" minus
the tune plus a ton of pretension.
 
> The Seligman wikipedia article is not bad.  See also positive
> psychology, Csikzentmihalyi and Bandura. The reason this is relevant
> to the Reik business is his explanation of self-defeatism and the
> involvement therein of the subconscious. There is no evidence for the
> existence of any such object as the subconscious mind, by the way. It
> has never been observed on a brain imaging scan. It is a metaphor.

     Absolutely.  The mind is a shadowless thing lighted by the
****d fluorescent bulbs dangling from its ceiling, beneath
which it sits rigidly in a hard, straightbacked wood chair with
a sharpened number two pencil in its firm grip, waiting to 
correctly fill in the boxes in the forms that life sends in its
direction, always writing clearly and distinctly in a
well-formed hand.  The unconscious is merely a myth, dreams are 
Communist propaganda, and parapraxis is part of a 
Jewish-Asiatic conspiracy aiming to pollute the pureness of the
mind's precious juices.  Now if you'll excuse me I need to
practice my boot-clacks.  I want to get to 2000 in a row before 
the Fueh^H^H^H^H President's birthday.

-- Catawumpus
 




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getting to the point I'm no fun anymore
"bukvich@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-25 06:08:59 
Re: getting to the point I'm no fun anymore
Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-04-25 11:13:27 
Re: getting to the point I'm no fun anymore
"bukvich@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-25 14:17:23 
Re: getting to the point I'm no fun anymore
Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-04-25 21:27:09 
Re: getting to the point I'm no fun anymore
bob <thanatos@[EMAIL P  2008-04-25 21:39:21 
Re: getting to the point I'm no fun anymore
Catawumpus <kimmerian@  2008-04-26 06:43:46 
Re: getting to the point I'm no fun anymore
"bukvich@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-27 12:46:06 
Re: getting to the point I'm no fun anymore
Catawumpus <kimmerian@  2008-04-28 06:49:34 
Re: getting to the point I'm no fun anymore
"bukvich@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-28 14:39:48 
Re: getting to the point I'm no fun anymore
Catawumpus <kimmerian@  2008-04-29 05:27:36 
Re: getting to the point I'm no fun anymore
That One <david1963@[E  2008-04-28 19:17:57 
Re: getting to the point I'm no fun anymore
"bukvich@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-29 12:31:13 
Re: getting to the point I'm no fun anymore
Catawumpus <kimmerian@  2008-04-30 07:03:51 
Re: getting to the point I'm no fun anymore
Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-04-29 18:28:55 
Re: getting to the point I'm no fun anymore
Catawumpus <kimmerian@  2008-04-30 07:13:16 
Re: getting to the point I'm no fun anymore
Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-04-30 08:31:40 
Re: getting to the point I'm no fun anymore
Catawumpus <kimmerian@  2008-05-01 07:45:15 
Re: getting to the point I'm no fun anymore
"bukvich@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-30 07:01:42 
Re: getting to the point I'm no fun anymore
Catawumpus <kimmerian@  2008-05-01 07:34:37 
Re: getting to the point I'm no fun anymore
bob <thanatos@[EMAIL P  2008-05-01 20:21:31 
Re: getting to the point I'm no fun anymore
bob <thanatos@[EMAIL P  2008-05-01 20:30:34 
Re: getting to the point I'm no fun anymore
Catawumpus <kimmerian@  2008-05-02 06:48:38 
Re: getting to the point I'm no fun anymore
Catawumpus <kimmerian@  2008-05-02 06:46:29 
Re: getting to the point I'm no fun anymore
Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-05-01 10:08:45 
Re: getting to the point I'm no fun anymore
Catawumpus <kimmerian@  2008-05-02 06:45:23 
Re: getting to the point I'm no fun anymore
That One <david1963@[E  2008-05-01 08:37:20 
Re: getting to the point I'm no fun anymore
Catawumpus <kimmerian@  2008-05-02 06:38:22 
Re: getting to the point I'm no fun anymore
That One <david1963@[E  2008-05-01 08:39:37 
Re: getting to the point I'm no fun anymore
"bukvich@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-01 11:34:01 
Re: getting to the point I'm no fun anymore
Catawumpus <kimmerian@  2008-05-02 06:31:39 

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