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Re: MUHAMAD IS AN ORPHAN THE BACKGROUND IS DIFFERENT FROM JESUS

by "zr" <ngzr@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 24, 2007 at 12:42 PM

His father was an illiterate camel herder according to historical evidence.

He too was an illiterate.
You are telling us he was an orphan?
Revisionism?

"MUSLIM SCHOLAR" <semaun@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
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> JESUS coming from god muhamad coming from orphan NOBODY LIKE HIM
>
> The truth is rather ignoble. Muslim scholars know nothing about
Muhammad's 
> birth, and very little about his childhood. They missed his birthday by 
> eighteen years when they claimed he was born in the year of the
elephant, 
> recently dated to 552 A.D. But to make their prophet fit Qusayy's
profile 
> of being forty when he staked his claim to the Ka'aba, Islamic
historians 
> claim Muhammad was born in 570 - exactly forty years before the first 
> "revelation." Missing a date this im****tant by eighteen years calls all
of 
> Islam's oral testimony into question. By way of example, this did not 
> occur: Ishaq:70 "I heard a Jew calling out at the top of his voice from 
> Yathrib, 'O Jews, tonight has risen a star under which Ahmad is to be 
> born.'"
>
> Born fatherless, Muhammad's mother abandoned him, giving him up to be 
> suckled by a Bedouin woman. With his father dead and his mother poor, no

> wet-nurse wanted the infant because the burden exceeded the potential 
> remuneration. Raising another's child in the inhospitable desert was
done 
> for money, not love. The least qualified of the wet-nurses, we are told,

> after failing to find a wealthy kid, reluctantly snatched the last 
> available newborn, the would-be prophet, and hauled him off into the 
> wilderness. A Hadith explains: Ishaq:70 "Halima went forth with her baby

> whom she was nursing, with other women, in search of babies to nurse.
She 
> was destitute and could not sleep because of the weeping of her hungry 
> child. She had no milk to give him." Halima was obviously in no position

> to suckle another child. This was a disaster waiting to happen.
>
> Ishaq:71 "When Halima reached Mecca, she set out to look for foster 
> children. The Apostle of Allah was offered to everyone of us, and each 
> woman refused him when she was told he was an orphan, because we hoped
to 
> get payment from the child's father. We said, 'An orphan!' And we
spurned 
> him because of that. Every woman who came with me got a suckling except 
> me. And when we decided to depart, I said, 'I do not like the idea of 
> returning with my friends without a suckling. I will take that orphan.'
I 
> took him for the sole reason that I could not find anyone else." So much

> for the "light" theory. Women were throwing themselves at Muhammad's dad

> to sire him, but no one wanted to raise him. That doesn't make any
sense.
>
> What happened out there in the blowing sands and blistering heat is 
> anybody's guess. All we know is that a baby was abandoned by his mother 
> and given to a woman who was ill prepared to care for him. The only 
> testimony that survives is in the Qur'an - a haunting and recurring
theme 
> that suggests he may have been abused. Allah's revelations speak of an 
> orphan boy with wealthy relatives being abandoned, treated poorly, and 
> being shut out of the family business - The Ka'aba Inc. Permutations of 
> this theme permeate Allah's book, compelling the Muslim sages to give
this 
> mess a prophetic twist.
>
> Ibn Ishaq claims that when Muhammad was two, Halima brought him back to 
> his mother Aminah. Ishaq:72 "But she sent him back. Some months after
his 
> return to the desert two men in white seized the boy, threw him down and

> opened up his belly, stirring it up." We are told that Muhammad was 
> "livid." "Halima said, 'I am afraid that this child has had a stroke, so
I 
> want to take him back before the result appears.' She carried him back
to 
> Aminah and said, 'I am afraid that ill will befall him, so I have
brought 
> him back to you.' She asked what had happened. I said, 'I fear that a 
> demon has possessed him.'" She was right.
>
>
 




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MUHAMAD IS AN ORPHAN THE BACKGROUND IS DIFFERENT FROM JESUS
"MUSLIM SCHOLAR"  2007-02-24 14:31:05 
Re: MUHAMAD IS AN ORPHAN THE BACKGROUND IS DIFFERENT FROM JESUS
"zr" <ngzr@[  2007-02-24 12:42:02 

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