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Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq

by zacks@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 9, 2008 at 11:08 AM

On Apr 9, 1:56=A0pm, HarryNadds <hoofhearte...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Apr 9, 12:46=A0pm, Rudy Canoza <pi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > HarryNadds wrote:
> > > On Apr 9, 12:14 pm, Rudy Canoza <pi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > >> U.S. must leave Iraq, retired generals say
>
> > >> By Rick Maze - Staff writer
> > >> Posted : Friday Apr 4, 2008 12:45:38 EDT
>
> > >> Setting a withdrawal timetable from Iraq might be a shaky strategic
> > >> move, but it would provide a morale boost for service members and
the=
ir
> > >> families, a former Army War College commandant said Wednesday.
>
> > >> Retired Army Maj. Gen. Robert Scales Jr., testifying before the
Senat=
e
> > >> Foreign Affairs Committee about U.S. military strategy in Iraq,
said =
he
> > >> has no doubt that a major withdrawal of combat forces is coming
becau=
se
> > >> the U.S. has "run out of military options" and cannot indefinitely
> > >> sustain troop levels.
>
> > >> "Regardless of who wins the election and regardless of conditions
on =
the
> > >> ground, by summer the troops will begin to come home," said Scales,
w=
ho
> > >> headed the war college in 1997. "The only point of contention is
how
> > >> precipitous will be the withdrawal and whether the schedule of
> > >> withdrawal should be a matter of administration policy."
>
> > >> [...]
>
> > >> Scales testified along with two other retired Army generals, Gen.
Bar=
ry
> > >> McCaffrey and Lt. Gen. William Odom, who also agreed a withdrawal
of
> > >> U.S. combat troops early in the next president's administration is
> > >> inevitable.
>
> > >> "We face a deteriorating political situation with an over-extended
> > >> Army," said Odom, who served as director of the National Security
Age=
ncy
> > >> in the Reagan administration.
>
> > >> "The only sensible strategy is to withdraw rapidly but in good
order,=
"
> > >> Odom said. "Only that step can break the paralysis now gripping
U.S.
> > >> strategy in the region."
>
> > >> McCaffrey, a former chief of U.S. Southern Command and commander of
t=
he
> > >> 24th Infantry Division in the 1991 Gulf War, predicted a withdrawal
o=
f
> > >> U.S. forces within three years or less because there is "no U.S.
> > >> political will to continue" and because allies "have abandoned us."
>
> > >> "It is over," McCaffrey said.
>
> >
>>http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/04/military_iraqwithdrawal_040208w/=

>
> > >> These men know what they're talking about. =A0The PR flacks in the
Bu=
sh
> > >> administration do not.
>
> > > These "retired" Generals can easily make a few extra bucks by
calling
> > > CNN,ABC,CBS,PBS or BBC and say"For a few thousand I'll get on
national=

> > > TV sound authoritative and talk down the Iraq war".If you want the
> > > truth about the war they'll do it for free but the media isn't
> > > interested.
>
> > Their comments came in testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations
> > committee. =A0They were not paid to appear and testify.
>
> > Even if they were subsequently to appear on news programs and be paid
> > fees for their appearance, that in no way detracts from what they're
> > saying. =A0What they're saying is the game is over, and they are
right.-=
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> > - Show quoted text -
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> RRRIIIGGGHHHTT =A0!!!!!!!!!!! =A0If they were saying the US is on the
> right track and Bush did the right thing you'd be calling them
> phoneys,liars and Bush ****lls.Kinda' like what you droolers say about
> Patreaus!!

IF, IF, IF, ...
 




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Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-09 10:14:01 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
George Grapman <sfgeor  2008-04-09 10:15:57 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-09 10:16:39 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
HarryNadds <hoofhearte  2008-04-09 10:38:43 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-09 10:46:05 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
"sherb" <her  2008-04-10 21:20:22 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
"Jorge W Arbusto, Pr  2008-04-12 14:50:47 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-12 08:32:05 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
never@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-12 15:45:01 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
4025 Dead <zeppp@[EMAI  2008-04-09 18:18:20 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
HarryNadds <hoofhearte  2008-04-09 10:56:18 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-09 11:09:17 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
4025 Dead <zeppp@[EMAI  2008-04-09 18:19:20 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
zacks@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-09 11:08:19 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
HarryNadds <hoofhearte  2008-04-10 10:44:59 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-10 11:11:29 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
Gary DeWaay <dewaay2sp  2008-04-13 20:52:01 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
ayatollah obama <osama  2008-04-10 11:55:52 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
HarryNadds <hoofhearte  2008-04-10 12:00:06 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-10 12:07:32 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
ayatollah obama <osama  2008-04-10 12:28:25 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-10 12:50:28 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
HarryNadds <hoofhearte  2008-04-10 12:51:31 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-10 12:51:32 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-10 13:11:06 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
HarryNadds <hoofhearte  2008-04-10 12:56:06 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-10 13:22:00 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
"sherb" <her  2008-04-10 21:25:32 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
"This is your brain   2008-04-10 13:06:24 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-10 13:20:04 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
HarryNadds <hoofhearte  2008-04-10 19:56:09 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
"robw" <nodd  2008-04-10 23:24:17 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-10 21:38:37 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
ayatollah obama <osama  2008-04-11 01:56:28 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-11 06:45:52 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
HarryNadds <hoofhearte  2008-04-11 10:57:36 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
"Jorge W Arbusto, Pr  2008-04-12 14:49:55 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
HarryNadds <hoofhearte  2008-04-11 11:01:31 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
HarryNadds <hoofhearte  2008-04-11 11:02:58 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
Rudy Canoza <notgenx32  2008-04-11 11:51:29 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
HarryNadds <hoofhearte  2008-04-11 12:29:09 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
"Jorge W Arbusto, Pr  2008-04-12 14:53:34 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
Gary DeWaay <dewaay2sp  2008-04-12 13:46:05 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
Rudy Canoza <notgenx32  2008-04-11 13:06:46 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
HarryNadds <hoofhearte  2008-04-11 18:08:25 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-11 23:16:55 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
HarryNadds <hoofhearte  2008-04-12 09:43:38 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-13 08:36:11 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
Gary DeWaay <dewaay2sp  2008-04-13 20:22:09 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
"robw" <nodd  2008-04-13 21:35:14 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
Gary DeWaay <dewaay2sp  2008-04-13 22:00:44 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-13 20:43:32 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
HarryNadds <hoofhearte  2008-04-16 10:55:05 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-16 11:07:52 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
never@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-16 19:31:10 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
HarryNadds <hoofhearte  2008-04-16 13:17:56 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
Rudy Canoza <notgenx32  2008-04-16 15:17:25 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
ayatollah obama <osama  2008-04-16 22:45:51 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-16 23:08:55 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
ayatollah obama <osama  2008-04-16 23:32:07 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-16 23:58:54 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
ayatollah obama <osama  2008-04-17 00:12:02 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-17 00:22:21 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
ayatollah obama <osama  2008-04-17 00:34:13 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-17 07:50:18 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
ayatollah obama <osama  2008-04-17 08:17:00 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-17 08:26:13 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-17 08:38:36 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
ayatollah obama <osama  2008-04-17 08:58:27 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-17 09:49:48 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
ayatollah obama <osama  2008-04-17 10:16:52 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-17 10:30:09 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
HarryNadds <hoofhearte  2008-04-17 10:50:42 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-17 11:28:00 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
HarryNadds <hoofhearte  2008-04-17 10:53:26 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
ayatollah obama <osama  2008-04-17 11:06:47 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-17 11:43:04 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
ayatollah obama <osama  2008-04-17 14:44:06 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-17 14:51:40 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
George Grapman <sfgeor  2008-04-17 14:58:03 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-17 15:19:45 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
ayatollah obama <osama  2008-04-17 15:19:10 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-17 15:23:00 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
ayatollah obama <osama  2008-04-17 15:33:43 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-17 15:34:48 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
never@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-17 22:39:26 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
ayatollah obama <osama  2008-04-17 15:45:17 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-17 19:01:44 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
ayatollah obama <osama  2008-04-17 23:08:14 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
HarryNadds <hoofhearte  2008-04-16 07:12:13 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
HarryNadds <hoofhearte  2008-04-13 06:06:05 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
Gary DeWaay <dewaay2sp  2008-04-13 17:32:54 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
HarryNadds <hoofhearte  2008-04-13 16:41:30 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
"robw" <nodd  2008-04-13 20:23:48 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
Gary DeWaay <dewaay2sp  2008-04-13 20:20:19 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
ayatollah obama <osama  2008-04-13 23:24:03 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
HarryNadds <hoofhearte  2008-04-14 04:22:06 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
HarryNadds <hoofhearte  2008-04-14 04:25:07 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
HarryNadds <hoofhearte  2008-04-14 04:26:08 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-14 07:14:18 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
HarryNadds <hoofhearte  2008-04-14 04:30:10 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
ayatollah obama <osama  2008-04-15 02:02:01 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-16 07:59:12 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
HarryNadds <hoofhearte  2008-04-15 12:22:07 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-15 12:21:23 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
4033 Dead <zeppp@[EMAI  2008-04-15 13:18:37 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
Steve <stevencanyon@[E  2008-04-15 17:27:08 
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HarryNadds <hoofhearte  2008-04-15 12:23:49 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
HarryNadds <hoofhearte  2008-04-16 10:20:57 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
never@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-16 17:25:33 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-16 11:05:20 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
never@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-16 19:35:19 
Re: Retired generals make the case for withdrawal from Iraq
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-16 11:04:45 

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