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Dan Kimmel <daniel.kimmel@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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>"Carl" <crothman@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>news:481f7b13$0$25042$607ed4bc@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> grinder@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>> > So lets gets this straight. If Iran attacks Israel with a nuclear
>> > bomb (forget that Israel will retaliate with numerous A-bombs
>> > themselves), Clinton will obliterate Iran.
>> >
>> > That means either she is willing to kill every man, woman, child and
>> > dog in Iran or she thinks she can "nuc" Tehran and the nuclear
>> > explosion would only kill the bad guys. Either way she is nuts.
>> >
>> While I cringed at her use of the word 'obliterate', and I don't
sup****t
>> sabre-rattling, the logic in your post is getting by me. Are you
promoting
>> what has apparently become the modern politically correct way to look
at
>> war, that is, the West can only strike "surgically" and
"pro****tionately",
>> while everyone else has no rules to abide by?
>
>I agree with your entirely sensible response.
>
>The only time "pro****tional" responses are required is when Israel is
>attacked. According to this theory, our only response to Pearl
>Harbor should have been to attack one of Japan's naval bases.
No, Japan didn't just bomb Pearl Harbor and got done with it. If that
were the case, then I would have agreed with you that as a retaliatory
move, we would just ``attack one of Japan's naval bases'', at best.
I say at best because violence engenders more violence.
But in any case, history shows us clearly that Japan harbored enormous
imperial ambition at the time, invaded many countries. It also signed
some kind of military alliance with Nazi Germany. It was unmistakably
a party of aggression.
So, it needed to be defeated. And it was on the verge of being
defeated after the Soviet Union entered Berlin and then sent its army
East to fight the Japanese imperial army on the Korea peninsula. It
was and still is widely believed that we didn't have to nuke the two
cities that we nuked. According to that belief, the USSR army was
about to take over Korea. And the US didn't want that to happen, so
it exploded the two A bombs that it had as both a warning to the USSR
and to quicken Japan's surrender.
In any case, I don't believe in nuking Nagasaki and Hiro****ma. The
innocent Japanese numbered in hundreds of thousands were instantly
killed and yet the emperor, the master perpetrator of the war that
killed so many of Americans, not to mentioned the millions of Asians,
was spared.
By the same reason, it is all wrong for any American policy maker to
obliterate an entire country for what the government of that country
has done.
Hillary tries to explain away her statement as simply a warning. But
it is not just a statement. A statement from a potential policymaker
reflects a mindset, reflects the mindset of a massive powerbroker to
whom she is beholden to, and initiate a process which could take on a
life of its own. An arm race with no resolution, with nobody willing
to back down, and with every potential to end in a situation where it
becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy.
Self-fulfilling prophesies have been abundantly recorded in the
history of human civilization, from the history of ancient Israel to
the history of the Greeks, the Babylonians, and others.
And that's why Jesus taught cessation of violence as the path for the
survival of human civilization as he saw what happened to Israel.
Even if you don't believe in Jesus' teaching. Think about your own
survival and those of your children's. The fact that we have all
these inclement weather events that kill and kill by the thousands in
the world's weather hot spots and by smaller numbers in the US, but
nevertheles by greater and greater numbers, has a great deal to do
with the amount of extra energy and momentum our ferocious and endless
military operations have injected and are continuing to inject into
the planet's atmosphere.
These quantities of energy and momentum don't just go away.
They exist as high-frequency or Fourier components in the atmosphere's
fluctuating energy content. They get organize with time and come back
to haunt those of us who don't live in bunkers and do so in force and
in unexpected times.
Even though the brunt of the forces unleashed is felt east because of
the way trade winds are blown and affect the poor innocent people in
Bangladesh, Burma, and further east the most, I cannot imagine how
Israel can entirely avoid the effect of the aftermath from Hillary's
``totally obliteration'' project against Iran.
So, whatever signal Hillary was trying to send to rally the sup****t of
her critically im****tant constituency, it is inexcusable. It shows
Hillary is entirely unfit to lead our country, which has so much nuke
to wreak destruction with when fallen in the wrong hand. Each of us
American citizen must exercise our responsibility to prevent Hillary
from getting her hand on the nuke, if we want a better future for
ourselves and our cchildren.
lo yeeOn
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