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Re: Fourth Amendment Bestirred (Digital and Internet Privacy)

by Larry <x@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 7, 2008 at 09:59 PM

In article <gk64241lsp7eso8p936j4o0uhe2t5o1csu@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
 richard <i.do.not@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> On Wed, 7 May 2008 12:01:47 -0700 (PDT), Branson Hunter
> <bh2322@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> 
> >
> >DIGITAL AND INTERNET PRIVACY - LOSSES AND WINS
> >
> >Founding Fathers Know Best?  Not exactly.  The Fourth Amendment was
> >dumped right here in Los Angeles.
> 
> The track record of the 9th circuit speaks for itself. Usually they
> get their decisions overturned.
> 
> The 4th amendment is quite clear. It has never given unlimited search
> powers to any division of law enforcement for any reason.

Actually, have you read it?  It prohibits UNREASONABLE searches and
seizures without a warrant.

> So no,
> Customs, TSA, and others who control the borders do not have the legal
> right to go through your laptop and search for what ever do***ents
> they may find not to their liking. You want to search my computer? Get
> a search warrant.

Sorry, Richard, but the court just said otherwise.

And this is a longstanding area where you can be searched without 
probable cause or reasonable suspicion.  They're called administrative 
needs searches - if it serves an administrative need, rather than law 
enforcement, generally the search is allowable.  Examples of this 
include  boarding airplanes, entering federal buildings, and yes, 
entering the country.
 
> But knowing this, I can easily thwart them at their own game.
> Buy a 2nd hard drive. Have nothing on it when I go through customs.
> The other one is in the mail being delivered to my destination.
> Sealed in such a way that I will know if it got tampered with or not.

Ooooh, gee, you're soooo smart.

> However, they can legally search your belongings for certain known
> banned contraband. To my knowleldge, private papers, and laptops are
> not among those.

Your knowledge, as usual, is ridiculously poor.
 




 9 Posts in Topic:
Fourth Amendment Bestirred (Digital and Internet Privacy)
Branson Hunter <bh2322  2008-05-07 12:01:47 
Re: Fourth Amendment Bestirred (Digital and Internet Privacy)
lorad474@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-07 12:05:15 
Re: Fourth Amendment Bestirred (Digital and Internet Privacy)
richard <i.do.not@[EMA  2008-05-07 14:18:47 
Re: Fourth Amendment Bestirred (Digital and Internet Privacy)
Larry <x@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-07 21:59:10 
Re: Fourth Amendment Bestirred (Digital and Internet Privacy)
richard <i.do.not@[EMA  2008-05-08 21:06:56 
Re: Fourth Amendment Bestirred (Digital and Internet Privacy)
Larry <x@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-09 00:17:09 
Re: Fourth Amendment Bestirred (Digital and Internet Privacy)
richard <i.do.not@[EMA  2008-05-08 22:41:34 
Re: Fourth Amendment Bestirred (Digital and Internet Privacy)
Larry <x@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-09 03:13:44 
Re: Fourth Amendment Bestirred (Digital and Internet Privacy)
richard <i.do.not@[EMA  2008-05-09 02:53:39 

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