"Rudy Canoza" <pipes@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Dan Kimmel wrote:
> > "Rudy Canoza" <pipes@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> Dan Kimmel wrote:
> >>> "Rudy Canoza" <pipes@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> >>>> Dan Kimmel wrote:
> >>>>> "grinder@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
" <nobody@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >>>>> news:8tGdnfCoi7FwIbzVnZ2dnUVZ_gOdnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>>> Straw man argument. Who has said the response should be
> > pro****tional?
> >>>>> Start with the Secretary-General of the United Nations.
> >>>> *YOU* give us a verifiable citation, liar.
> >>> You're the liar
> >> Nope. You lied. You said that the UN has a "feeling" that Israel
has
> >> no right to defend itself. That's a lie.
> >
> > It's the truth.
>
> It isn't the truth; it's complete bull****. That's why you can't give
> any evidence to sup****t the claim.
>
> Merely repeating your bull**** claim will not transform it to the truth.
> It's bull****.
>
I provided ample evidence. I accept your concession that you cannot
refute
ANY of it.
>
> >>> Israel's offensive into Lebanon and the Gaza Strip, in response to
the
> >>> abductions of two of its soldiers by Hezbollah and one by Hamas
> > militants,
> >>> raises a number of difficult legal questions. Among them: Did the
> > Israeli
> >>> response violate the principle of pro****tionality? UN Secretary
General
> > Kofi
> >>> Annan has accused Israel of "dispro****tionate use of force" in its
air
> >>> strikes aimed at infrastructure including bridges and power
stations,
> >>> attacks which cut off clean water and electricity to Palestinian
> > civilians.
> >
http://www.cfr.org/publication/11115/israel_and_the_doctrine_of_pro****tionality.html
> >> Exactly right. Israel's response was grotesquely dispro****tionate;
> >> criminally so.
> >>
> >> Nonetheless, liar, that doesn't do anything to sup****t your claim
that
> >> the UN harbors a "feeling" that Israel has no right to defend itself.
> >> Its grotesquely dispro****tionate response was in no way defensive.
> >
> > Actually, liar, the claim that Israel defending itself against
unending
> > terrorist attacks should be constrained by Annan's sense of
> > "pro****tionality" is what is criminal.
>
> No, lying Zio-Nazi, Annan didn't say that Israel shouldn't defend
> itself. What Israel does in launching wanton, indiscriminate attacks
> against Lebanon and Gaza is not self-defense. That's the whole issue.
No you lying antisemite, he didn't say Israel should defend itself, he
blamed Israel for fighting back against wanton terrorism but couldn't
bring
himself to devote much attention to the actual terrorists.
Try again, and please stop lying. You only make yourself more pathetic.
> > What is criminal is the sup****t idiots like you give to Hamas and
Hezbollah
>
> No sup****t for Hamas or Hezbollah given, liar. Opposition to Israeli
> aggression - state terrorism - does not equate to sup****t for Hamas and
> Hezbollah.
>
> Stop lying, kimmie.
Canoza the foreign born bigot lies again. Israel does not engage in state
terrorism. It's your beloved Palestinians who do that. It's their overt,
declared policy.
And on that you are silent. After all, you sup****t their murdering Jews.
> >>>>>>> It is the only country in the world that the UN feels is
> >>>>>>> not entitled to defend itself from ongoing war and terrorist
> > attacks.
> >>>>>> Another straw man argument. BTW, one country's defense will be
> > viewed
> >>>>>> by others as belligerence. The Iraq war is an excellent example.
> >>>>> Not a straw man at all.
> >>>> Yes, it is a straw man. "The UN" has never said, nor given any
> > evidence
> >>>> of a "feeling", that Israel does not have a right to defend itself.
> > You
> >>>> fabricated the charge out of thin air.
> >>> You are a dimwit.
> >> No. But you are a liar.
> >
> > Yes,
>
> No. You are a liar - a lying Zio-Nazi fanatic. You're a disloyal
> "American". Get your Zio-Nazi ass to Israel if you want to promote its
> interests.
Go back to where you came from antisemite. Decent Americans reject your
foreignborn hate and paranoia.
>
>
> >>> [snip BULL**** that does not, in any way, sup****t your false claim
about
> >>> the UN harboring a "feeling" that Israel has no right to defend
itself]
> >> You lied.
> >
> > Translation:
>
> No translation necessary. You lied, full stop.
Translation: "I cannot refute you, Mr. Kimmel. I can only delete it and
pretend the facts don't exist."
>
>
> >>>>> Israel *is* under attack by terrorist groups
> >>>>> publicly vowing to destroy Israel. The only people who think
Israel
> > is
> >>>>> "belligerant" for daring to fight back are those who already
sup****t
> > the
> >>>>> Hamas "destroy Israel" agenda.
> >>>> No, that's another straw man - a form of lying.
> >>> No, as demonstrated, it is incontrovertible facts.
> >> No, it's a lie, kimmie. It is not a fact at all. It's a false
> >> bifurcation. *MOST* people who believe Israel responded immorally
and
> >> illegally in their dispro****tionate response harbor no such sup****t
for
> >> Hamas.
> >>
> >> You lie every time you post. You're a chronic liar.
> >
> > Now you're projecting.
>
> Now I'm describing you, you filthy lying Zio-Nazi.
No, you're projecting. YOU are the antisemitic liar. YOU are the one who
defends the terrorists. YOU are one who crawls in the mud with the
bigoted
s***.
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