On Wed, 07 May 2008 21:59:10 -0400, Larry <x@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>In article <gk64241lsp7eso8p936j4o0uhe2t5o1csu@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> richard <i.do.not@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 7 May 2008 12:01:47 -0700 (PDT), Branson Hunter
>> <bh2322@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >DIGITAL AND INTERNET PRIVACY - LOSSES AND WINS
>> >
>> >Founding Fathers Know Best? Not exactly. The Fourth Amendment was
>> >dumped right here in Los Angeles.
>>
>> The track record of the 9th circuit speaks for itself. Usually they
>> get their decisions overturned.
>>
>> The 4th amendment is quite clear. It has never given unlimited search
>> powers to any division of law enforcement for any reason.
>
>Actually, have you read it? It prohibits UNREASONABLE searches and
>seizures without a warrant.
>
>> So no,
>> Customs, TSA, and others who control the borders do not have the legal
>> right to go through your laptop and search for what ever do***ents
>> they may find not to their liking. You want to search my computer? Get
>> a search warrant.
>
>Sorry, Richard, but the court just said otherwise.
>
>And this is a longstanding area where you can be searched without
>probable cause or reasonable suspicion. They're called administrative
>needs searches - if it serves an administrative need, rather than law
>enforcement, generally the search is allowable. Examples of this
>include boarding airplanes, entering federal buildings, and yes,
>entering the country.
>
>> But knowing this, I can easily thwart them at their own game.
>> Buy a 2nd hard drive. Have nothing on it when I go through customs.
>> The other one is in the mail being delivered to my destination.
>> Sealed in such a way that I will know if it got tampered with or not.
>
>Ooooh, gee, you're soooo smart.
>
>> However, they can legally search your belongings for certain known
>> banned contraband. To my knowleldge, private papers, and laptops are
>> not among those.
>
>Your knowledge, as usual, is ridiculously poor.
Well dear boy, a few years ago, there was a case in which the Customs
agents had found a passenger on an airline who said was carrying
"child ****ography" and took him to court and confiscated the
drawings.
The Customs office lost the case because the drawings did not meet the
criteria for "child ****ography" under USA law.
Upon entering the country, I will agree that the Customs people have
the legal right to inspect your belongings, including laptops and
contents thereof. To a point.
But not when it comes to simply boarding a plane and going to a
destination within the USA. Yes, they can x-ray and examine luggage.
Plugging in the laptop and examining the contents? No.
Not on a domestic flight.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses,
papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall
not be violated.............
This has to be applied to domestic flights as well. If they can do
this on an airplane, why not on a bus, a train, or any other public
trans****tation system?
By allowing this search, the 9th circuit has broken the sanctity of
the constitution.
On Monday, I am boarding a plane, and with a laptop. We shall see what
they do with it and what happens if they do look inside it.
|
