On Sat, 10 May 2008 18:57:57 GMT, Larry in AZ
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>Waiving the right to remain silent, Rudy Canoza
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> said:
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>> Larry in AZ wrote:
>>> Waiving the right to remain silent, Rudy Canoza
>>> <pipes@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> said:
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>>>> Larry in AZ wrote:
>>>>> Waiving the right to remain silent, Rudy Canoza
>>>>> <pipes@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Eddie Haskell wrote:
>>>>>>> "Larry in AZ" <usenet2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>>> Waiving the right to remain silent, Rudy Canoza
>>>>>>>> <pipes@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> said:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Eddie Haskell wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Shouting down conservatives on college campuses is commonplace
>>>>>>>>> No more common than conservatives wanting "dirty" books banned,
>>>>>>>>> or wanting to lynch flag-burners.
>>>>>>>> Name the banned books, and flag-burners lynched.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now compare that to the number of conservative speakers
completely
>>>>>>>> disrupted and/or disallowed on campuses by "liberals" chanting
>>>>>>>> "free speech". Exactly. Thank you.
>>>>>> Exactly what? It fits with your preconceptions, but I notice
>>>>>> neither you nor the other foam-at-the-mouth knuckle-dragging
>>>>>> conservative can actually *cite* an instance of it happening. In
>>>>>> fact, it doesn't happen that much, because conservatives generally
>>>>>> don't go to university campuses to speak, knowing what the
reception
>>>>>> will be. Damn, dumb****er... You just proved my point.
>>>> No, stupid juvenile ****bag, I refuted your point (also the point of
>>>> the whiny, obedient little foam-at-the-mouth knuckle-dragging
>>>> troglodyte conservative troll footsoldier "eddie") that it happens
>>>> "all the time".
>>>> You seem not to have commented on my observation that leftwing
>>>> flagburners also don't go to NASCAR racetracks and burn flags in the
>>>> parking lots, either. You see, larreeee, people who know they face a
>>>> hostile environment usually don't go there.
>>>
>>> No, dumb****er, you proved my point about the left-wing loonies
denying
>>> free speech to conservative speakers on campuses.
>>
>> I refuted your point. The left wing does not commonly "deny free
>> speech" on campuses to conservatives, because conservatives do not
often
>> try to speak there, and most of the time when they do, they are not
>> heckled.
>
>They tend not to speak there becasue THEY KNOW THEIR FREE SPEECH WILL BE
>DENIED.
>
>Are you **really** this ****ing stupid..?
Indeed:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2006/11/29/cstillwell.DTL
http://news.greenvilleonline.com/blogs/bruss/2007/03/bruss_free_speech_on_campus.html
http://www.academia.org/campus_re****ts/1999/march_1999_2.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2G9oli9aLQ
In Feb. 2005, liberal students and alumni at San Francisco State
University shouted down conservative author David Horowitz, who
appeared at the university at the request and on the dime of College
Republicans.
In Dec. 2005 Ann Coulter, admittedly a lightning rod, was shouted down
at the University of Connecticut.
In Oct. 2006, members of the Minutemen (volunteers who patrol the
U.S.-Mexico border) were shouted down while speaking at Columbia
Univeristy.
In Dec. 2006, Rep. Tom Tancredo had a speech disrupted at Michigan
State University when left-wing protesters pulled fire alarms.
___________________
Conservative speakers have long been the targets of such illiberal
treatment. The violent reception given to Jim Gilchrist, founder of
the Minuteman Project, an anti-illegal immigration group, at Columbia
University in October is a recent example. Gilchrist had been invited
to speak by the Columbia University College Republicans, but was
prevented from doing so by an unruly mob of students. What could have
been mere heckling descended into yelling, screaming, kicking and
punching, culminating in the ru****ng of the stage and Gilchrist being
shuttled off by security.
The fact that the rioting students could be heard yelling, "He has no
right to speak!" was telling. Apparently, in their minds, neither
Gilchrist nor anyone else with whom they disagree has a right to
express their viewpoints. In any other setting this would be called
exactly what it is -- totalitarianism. But in the untouchable Ivy
League world of Columbia, it was chalked up to student activism gone
awry. While condemning the incident, Columbia University President Lee
Bollinger has yet to apologize to Gilchrist or to conclude the
supposed investigation into the affair. In other words, mob rule won
the day.
Wonder if ole Rudy can come up with any references to the instances of
conservatives acting in the same manner toward liberal speakers?
Regards
Starkiller
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