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Re: Obliterate Iran

by figaroxx@[EMAIL PROTECTED] May 14, 2008 at 09:12 PM

On Wed, 14 May 2008 20:55:44 -0400, "Dan Kimmel"
<daniel.kimmel@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>
><figaroxx@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>news:u9om245gvavihiscsvmpj1k66ob4194uil@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Wed, 14 May 2008 13:10:15 -0400, "Dan Kimmel"
>> <daniel.kimmel@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> ><figaroxx@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>> >news:3h5m2418488r25j5bam6d34ljj5vfaivve@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> On Tue, 13 May 2008 23:10:31 -0400, "Dan Kimmel"
>> >> <daniel.kimmel@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >So I accept your concession that your phoney scorekeeping is a
bogus
>> >> >argument, and shoot down your new argument as well.
>> >>
>> >> The Idiot's ignorant, childish, and wholly desperate answer to any
>> >> situation which leaves her exposed as a know-nothing asshole.
>> >> Probably taught in those CAMERA meetings where little Zionists are
>> >> drilled in the finer points of treason against America.
>> >
>> >Translation: "I can't refute you, Mr. Kimmel.  I can only name call."
>>
>> "Mr. KImmel"? Get outta here...your posts are so *****-ish they
>> practically scream "Miss Kimmel". So what's you ambition, Honey, to
>> become Israel's Mata Hari? Good luck and don't forget to look your
>> best for the firing squad.
>
>Please leave me out of your twisted *** fantasies.

How can I? Everything about you makes you the perfect 
subject for a twisted *** fantasy. I can see a gang of Mossad agents
lining up as you squeal with anticipation. Anything for the cause,
right? 
>
>
 




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"Dan Kimmel" &l  2008-05-05 19:20:58 
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"Dan Kimmel" &l  2008-05-08 12:36:28 
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