On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 05:52:41 +0000, Mr.Wiggly wrote:
Kent Paul Dolan wrote:
> "Steve Johnsenson" <Steve.Johnsenson@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > Kent Paul Dolan wrote:
> >> "Ioannis" <morpheus@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> >>> Here I disagree. It is VERY hard to disengage
> >>> from the Christian doctrine, particularly if one
> >>> is brought up in such a family. The religion's
> >>> memes become hardcoded in one's brain and the
> >>> result is (usually) irreversible and complete
> >>> dementia.
>
> >> This is precisely why my (rabid atheist) father
> >> suggests with full sincerity that the teaching of
> >> religion to non-adults be made a capital offense.
>
> >> I'm pretty much in agreement, for what it's
> >> worth.
>
> > They should have sent someone to jail from
> > teaching religious principles to Gandhi, MLK,
> > Malcom X, the Berrigan brothers, and Frederick
> > Douglass: the poor deluded bastards.
>
> Ghandi, whose religion-based meddling in India left
> a society repeatedly torn by religious murders and
> wars, because religion is based at its core in
> intolerance of non-participants in exactly the same
> doctrines, much less those so different as Hindus,
> Moslems, Buddhists and others, and so can form no
> basis for peaceful government?
>
> Dr. Martin Luther King, whose confrontational
> methods left death and destruction in its wake, and
> a nation no less rife with bigotry than before he
> began, because religion is no basis for tolerance,
> precisely the opposite, in fact?
>
> Malcom X? Wasn't that some hate purveyor to American
> Blacks?
>
> The Berrigan brothers, famous blood throwers?
>
> Frederick Douglass, whose espousing of "everything
> will be better in the next life" left Blacks
> unfocused on the current injustices of their
> existence, hoping instead for a balancing Eternal
> Life that will never occur, so that over a century
> later racial equality of op****tunity still escapes
> American society even as an accepted ideal by the
> majority of citizens?
>
> As well trumpet the teachers of those murderous
> Catholics who inflicted the Spanish Inquisition to
> stamp out those they labeled "heretics", the
> Cathars, who believed that Christ was an ordinary
> man gifted at baptism by the Holy Spirit, and that a
> higher baptism, by a kiss, than the Roman Catholic
> Church supplied, was possible and good. After all,
> murdering those with whose doctrines you disagree is
> an ancient and still prevailing part of religion as
> religion, see, e.g., "jihad".
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathar
>
> Religion, as religion, after all, is merely a
> formalized, ritualized process of teaching
> intolerance.
>
> What I object to is teaching this intolerance to
> those too young to apply rational skepticism to
> those teachings.
>
> I have adult friends who have been brainwashed by
> Scientologists, and others by the Moon cult, but
> frankly, at that age, their fate was beyond the
> capacity of Law to remedy, their minds beyond the
> reach of skepticism to protect, and so they are left
> to sleep in the bed they've let be made for them.
>
> xanthian.
>
>
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