Jan Flora wrote:
> In article <GuOdnZqFQ5jBkITVnZ2dnUVZ_ovinZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> jbohren <dontspamjeff_bohren@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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>> Bob Officer© wrote:
>>> On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 20:19:57 -0700 (PDT), in alt.culture.alaska,
>>> jerry <GeraldCNewton@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My daughter who is married to a dairy farmer told me four weeks ago
>>>> that they couldn't buy fertilizer for the spring planting. Now it is
>>>> all over the news. All the indicators are falling in place. We
don't
>>>> ahve to worry about global warming because most of us will be gone
>>>> before it ever happens. Remember, 2.5 billion people in 1968, and
6.5
>>>> billion people now. That means the population has doubled in 40
>>>> years. The famines are coming! Every day over 200,000 people are
>>>> added and every month 6 million people are added. Every month 10
>>>> times the entire population of Alaska is added to this planet.
>>> False. Here every farm supply place is loaded with fertilizer. The
>>> problem is the prices of the fertilizer has gone up as has the cost
>>> to have it delivered. The price of corn and soy has not only gone up,
>>> but the cost to haul, process and ****p the feed products has gone up.
>>>
>>> The fertilizer is there but like most farmers they whine and complain
>>> about the cost of doing business.
>>>
>>> The pocket sized powerplants which have sprung up in the last 8
>>> years, as a result of the Bush induced "Enron" problem, has produced
>>> the demand for natural "clean burning" gas. What was originally a
>>> side produce of oil production is now a major source of revenue.
>>>
>>> The cost rising costs today are now the result of future trading.
>>> 100s of Millions of dollars a month are invested in 401k and other
>>> accounts. In the past this 401Ks were invested in the mortgage
>>> markets where the profits were high in the below prime market. Now
>>> the great profits are in the futures market and that drives the
>>> prices of the goods and production up. The drive to produce ever
>>> higher and higher profits without internal investment or plant upkeep
>>> is going to kill off the US economy.
>>>
>>> The 401k Plans are turning into giant rat holes that will only work
>>> because of a ponzi like scheme. Take away the 401k money in
>>> retirement accounts and the economy could be at a adjusted below that
>>> level of 1953. If you consider the loss of manufacturing and other
>>> jobs which are out sourced by large multinationals, then we could be
>>> below that 1929 mark.
>>>
>> I have a hard time believing that a dairy farmer doesn't have any
>> fertilizer. If anything, that farmer would have a tougher time
>> disposing of it. At least my family in Tillamook did!!
>
> Cow manure is good to spread on the hay fields, but unless you drill it
> in, the nitrogen off-g*****. We windrow-compost our cow poop, then
> spread it, but still need commercial fertilizer to get the grass to
grow.
>
> There's plenty of fertilizer available, if you can afford it. We paid
> $5250 for 15 tons of bulk 20-20-20 last year. This year, it'll cost
> $11,490 for the same stuff. That doesn't include driving our semi to
> Anchorage to haul it. Or putting tags on the Mack, so we can drive it
> over-the-road. That's something like $900, just for current tags.
>
> Fertilizer in Alaska is cheap, because Agrium still has some urea in the
> warehouse. Farmers in Montana are paying $1500/ton this year.
>
> We may have to borrow money for fertilizer and fuel this year. In 60
> years, this family has never borrowed money for any reason. (That
> includes mortgages for houses. They build their own, out of pocket.)
>
> Jan
In Tillamook, its liquified and then spread on the pastures through
irrigation sprinklers. I also remember the good old honey wagon. In
fact I know a bunch of kids that ran that honey wagon down the middle of
Main Street on an August morning...
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