Re: You don't seem to understand, dumb Fascist Creep!

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:24:13 +0100, Panta Rhei
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>turan*@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 the usual genocide-denying s***, writes:

what genocide?

nobody denies that a great number of armenians suffered and died
due to a mulitude of unfortunate cir***stances, but genocide never
happened

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"Regarding the "process of relocation" under the Tehcir Law, arguments
disputing the similarities to the ethnic cleansing (Holocaust) are as
follows: (a) there is no record of (neither from origination archives
nor from destination archives in Syria) an effort to develop a
systematic process and efficient means of killing, (b) there are no
lists or other methods for tracing the Armenian population to assemble
and kill as many people as possible, (c) there was no resource
allocation to exterminate Armenians (biological, chemical warfare
allocations), and the use of morphine as a mass extermination agent is
not accepted; in fact, there was a constant increase in food and
sup****t expenses and these efforts continued after the end of
de****tations, (d) there is no record of Armenians in forced
de****tations being treated as prisoners, (e) the claims regarding
prisoners apply only to the leaders of the Armenian militia, but did
not extend to ethnic profiling; the size of the security force needed
to develop these claims was beyond the power of the Ottoman Empire
during 1915, (f) there is no record of prisons designed or built to
match the claims of a Holocaust, (g) there were no public speeches
organized by the central government targeting Armenians. ... The
Turkish authorities maintain the position that the Ottoman Empire did
not exercise the degree of control which the opposing parties claim.
Turkey accepts that there were Armenian deaths as a result of Ottoman
decisions, but states that the responsible Ottoman bureaucrats and
military personnel were tried. Bernard Lewis believe that what he
names the "tremendous massacres" [23] were not "a deliberate
preconceived decision of the Ottoman government."[24] The Dutch
historian nl:Erik Zürcher believes that the re****ted killings during
the application of Tehcir law were ordered not by the Ottoman
government itself, but claims that a small circle.[25] He sup****ted
his claims, in particular, the holding of trials by court martial
involving several hundred soldiers guilty of massacres, as early as
1916.[26] Zürcher believes that the killings could not be qualified as
genocide.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial_of_the_Armenian_Genocide