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Re: You don't seem to understand, Genocide-denying Turkish S***!

by Panta Rhei <cool.multitec@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Nov 14, 2007 at 01:15 AM

turan*@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 the usual, genocide-denying Turkish s***, writes:

> On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:22:54 +0100, Panta Rhei
> <cool.multitec@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> 
>>turan*@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 writes:
>>
>>> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:45:31 +0100, Panta Rhei
>>> <cool.multitec@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>McCarthy, the paid Turkish propaganda whore:
>>>>
>>>>He was awarded the Order of Merit of Turkey by the President of Turkey
in
>>>>1998 and he got his Honorary Doctorate at Süleyman Demirel University
in
>>>>Turkey.
>>>>
>>>>McCarthy is known for his controversial[1] challenge of the view that
there
>>>>was an Armenian Genocide.[2] He was also one of four scholars who
>>>>participated in a debate hosted by PBS over the veracity of the
genocide.
>>>>Television critic Alessandra Stanley of The New York Times commented
on
>>>>McCarthy's condescending behavior during the program and the ease at
which
>>>>his arguments were countered by humanities professor Peter Balakian
and
>>>>Ottoman historian Taner Akçam.[2]
>>>>
>>>>http://www.answers.com/topic/justin-mccarthy
>>>>
>>>>It's useless, dumb Turk. The world is fed up with primtive, fascist
s***
>>>>like you. You will NEVER manage to get your rotten lies accepted
outside
>>>>Turkey.
>>> 
>>> most people don't consider ad hominem attacks as a valid answer
>>> 
>>> if you have valid data that disagrees with professor mccarthy's
>>> careful and unbiased analysis please post it
>>
>><BG> You should learn to read, dumb Turk:
>>http://www.answers.com/topic/justin-mccarthy
>>
>>McCarthy is known for his controversial challenge of the view that there
>>was an Armenian Genocide.He was also one of four scholars who
>>participated in a debate hosted by PBS over the veracity of the
genocide.
>>
>>Television critic Alessandra Stanley of The New York Times commented on
>>McCarthy's condescending behavior during the program and the ease at
which
>>his arguments were countered by humanities professor Peter Balakian and
>>Ottoman historian Taner Akçam. [who is a Turk, btw]
>>
>>Also: McCarthy's work have been the subject of criticism of book
reviewers.
>>Among criticism, he has been accused of mishandling Ottoman Armenian
>>statistics.
>> 
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_McCarthy_%28American_historian%29
> 
> try to adress the numerical data scatterbrain

What you mean, you primitive genocide denier? That's what scholars did,
and
they question his "methodology":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Armenian_casualties

Justin McCarthy estimates

Justin McCarthy's figures are often cited, particularly in works that
could
be considered to sup****t the Turkish government thesis that the Armenian
massacres do not constitute genocide. Even though Professor McCarthy is a
Western academic, his numbers of Armenian casualties are derived from his
statistics of Armenian population, which in turn were derived from Ottoman
records (by applying correction values). Some scholars therefore consider
his figures to be an Ottoman source rather than a Western one.

McCarthy calculated an estimate of the pre-war Armenian population, then
subtracted his estimate of survivors, arriving at a figure of a little
less
than 600,000 for Armenian casualties for the period 1914 to 1922.[5] But
as
in the cases of his population, his statistics are controversial. In a
more
recent essay, he projected that if the Armenian records of 1913 were
accurate, 250,000 more deaths should be added, for a total of 850,000.[6]
and he is also criticized for overestimating the survivor table. Frédéric
Paulin goes as far as comparing his methodology with Rassinier's method in
calculating the European Jewry losses during World War II

....Scholarly consensus, however, has largely followed the conclusions
presented by Levon Marashlian's study (arriving at a figure of 1.2
million),
which claimed that McCarthy's approach suffers from a fatal methodological
flaw: in basing his results on inaccurate records. Marashlian maintain
there
was a reciprocal undercounting on the Ottoman's government's part on the
one
hand, and underre****ting by Armenians, on the other.[28] McCarthy,
nonetheless, claims that his results and the Ottoman adult male records
were
accurate. Others go on to criticize McCarthy in not only having
undercounted
the prewar Armenian population, but also overcounting the survivors.
McCarthy, for his part, argue that his works are too easily labeled by
academia as a Turkish-apologist, and complains of a lack of scholarly
debate.
 




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positions
turan*@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-11-08 20:39:47 
Re: position 70 for Turkey!
Panta Rhei <cool.multi  2007-11-08 21:51:39 
You don't seem to understand
turan*@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-11-08 22:19:45 
Re: Dumb Turk refuses to understand! LOL
Panta Rhei <cool.multi  2007-11-09 01:07:09 
pot is calling the kettle black, ---> Re: Dumb Turk refuses to
turan*@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-11-09 00:35:50 
Re: Dumb Turk unable to understand! LOL
Panta Rhei <cool.multi  2007-11-09 01:55:58 
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Re: Dumb Turk unable to understand! LOL
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turan*@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-11-09 17:00:41 
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turan*@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-11-09 19:54:47 
Re: Dumb Turk unable to understand! LOL
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Re: Primitive Turk unable to understand! LOL
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Re: Dumb Turk unable to understand! LOL
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Re: Dumb Turk unable to understand! LOL
Panta Rhei <cool.multi  2007-11-09 12:40:18 
Re: You don't seem to understand
Nashton <nanoid@[EMAIL  2007-11-11 07:28:28 
Re: You don't seem to understand
turan*@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-11-11 20:41:57 
Re: You don't seem to understand, dumb Fascist Creep!
Panta Rhei <cool.multi  2007-11-11 23:18:42 
Re: You don't seem to understand, dumb Fascist Creep!
turan*@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-11-11 22:52:59 
Re: You don't seem to understand, dumb Fascist Creep!
Panta Rhei <cool.multi  2007-11-12 00:18:42 
Re: You don't seem to understand, dumb Fascist Creep!
turan*@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-11-12 05:56:17 
Re: You don't seem to understand, dumb Fascist Creep!
Panta Rhei <cool.multi  2007-11-13 11:24:13 
Re: You don't seem to understand, dumb Fascist Creep!
turan*@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-11-13 18:00:18 
Re: You don't seem to understand, dumb Fascist Creep!
turan*@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-11-13 18:32:19 
Re: You don't seem to understand, dumb Fascist Creep!
Panta Rhei <cool.multi  2007-11-13 20:50:45 
Re: You don't seem to understand, dumb Fascist Creep!
turan*@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-11-13 20:22:44 
Re: You don't seem to understand, dumb Fascist Creep!
Panta Rhei <cool.multi  2007-11-13 22:05:22 
Re: You don't seem to understand, dumb Fascist Creep!
turan*@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-11-13 18:15:28 
Re: You don't seem to understand, dumb Fascist Creep!
Emil Tiades <emiltiade  2007-11-13 19:21:58 
Re: You don't seem to understand, dumb Fascist Creep!
Panta Rhei <cool.multi  2007-11-13 21:40:52 
Re: You don't seem to understand, dumb Fascist Creep!
turan*@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-11-13 21:08:07 
Re: You don't seem to understand, dumb Fascist Turkish Creep!
Panta Rhei <cool.multi  2007-11-13 22:45:31 
Re: You don't seem to understand, dumb Fascist Turkish Creep!
turan*@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-11-13 22:37:45 
Re: You don't seem to understand, dumb Fascist Turkish Creep!
Panta Rhei <cool.multi  2007-11-14 00:22:54 
Re: You don't seem to understand, dumb Fascist Armo Creep!
turan*@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-11-13 23:32:43 
Re: You don't seem to understand, Genocide-denying Turkish S***!
Panta Rhei <cool.multi  2007-11-14 01:15:06 
Re: You don't seem to understand, dumb Fascist Turkish Creep!
turan*@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-11-13 23:30:31 
Re: You don't seem to understand, dumb Fascist Turkish Genocide-
Panta Rhei <cool.multi  2007-11-14 02:05:03 
Re: You don't seem to understand, dumb Fascist Turkish Genocide-
Panta Rhei <cool.multi  2007-11-14 01:15:06 
Re: You don't seem to understand, dumb Fascist Turkish Creep!
Panta Rhei <cool.multi  2007-11-13 21:36:56 
"This has nothing to do with the EU. Let the historians resolve
turan*@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-11-13 21:41:35 
Re: Watch Typical, Genocide-denying Turkish S***!
Panta Rhei <cool.multi  2007-11-13 23:05:08 
Watch Typical, Lying Armenian S***!
turan*@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-11-13 22:32:15 
Re: Watch Typical, Lying Turkish S*** and his Ways to Argue!!! L
Panta Rhei <cool.multi  2007-11-14 00:22:54 
Re: Watch Typical, Lying Armenian S*** and his Ways to Argue!!!
turan*@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-11-13 23:39:03 
Re: Watch Typical, Lying, Genocide-Denying Turkish S*** and his
Panta Rhei <cool.multi  2007-11-14 01:15:05 
Re: positions
turan*@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-11-09 03:42:54 
Re: Still Position 70 for Turkey! LOL
Panta Rhei <cool.multi  2007-11-09 12:40:17 
Re: positions
"antinazi2" <  2007-11-09 12:04:28 
Re: positions
turan*@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-11-09 16:54:35 
Re: And still Position 70 for Turkey!
Panta Rhei <cool.multi  2007-11-09 19:05:20 
Re: You don't seem to understand
Deniz85 <lpu04ds@[EMAI  2007-11-08 14:24:31 
Re: You don't seem to understand
Panta Rhei <cool.multi  2007-11-09 01:06:59 
Re: You don't seem to understand, dumb Fascist Creep!
Deniz85 <lpu04ds@[EMAI  2007-11-11 21:11:16 
Re: You don't seem to understand, dumb Fascist Creep!
Panta Rhei <cool.multi  2007-11-13 11:24:14 
Re: You don't seem to understand, dumb Fascist Creep!
turan*@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-11-13 16:25:49 
Re: You don't seem to understand, dumb Fascist Creep!
Panta Rhei <cool.multi  2007-11-13 18:37:38 
Re: You don't seem to understand, dumb Fascist Creep!
turan*@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-11-13 18:30:41 
Re: You don't seem to understand, dumb Fascist Creep!
Panta Rhei <cool.multi  2007-11-13 20:50:45 
Re: You don't seem to understand, dumb Fascist Creep!
turan*@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-11-13 20:29:42 
Re: You don't seem to understand, dumb Fascist Creep!
Panta Rhei <cool.multi  2007-11-13 22:05:21 
Re: You don't seem to understand, dumb Fascist Creep!
turan*@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-11-13 19:44:51 
Re: You don't seem to understand, dumb Fascist Creep!
Panta Rhei <cool.multi  2007-11-13 21:33:32 
Re: You don't seem to understand, dumb Fascist Creep!
turan*@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-11-13 21:16:22 
Re: You don't seem to understand, dumb Fascist Creep!
Panta Rhei <cool.multi  2007-11-13 22:32:14 
Re: You don't seem to understand, dumb Fascist Creep!
Deniz85 <lpu04ds@[EMAI  2007-11-11 21:12:48 
Re: You don't seem to understand, dumb Fascist Creep!
Panta Rhei <cool.multi  2007-11-13 11:24:13 

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