On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:56:19 -0000, Allotrios <thisisnot@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>Ali Asker pasa_asker@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> On 26 Nov, 17:31, tur...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>> > On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:40:06 +0200, Platanos <no_tu...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> > >If I got it right then the majority were Muslims who spoke Turkish.
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>> > you don't get it right because you're a dumb****
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>> > you should educate yourself before prentending to be smart
>> >
>> > the official language of the ottoman empire was "osmanli"
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>> This is exactly what I am trying to put across. Ottomans weren't
>> Turks,
well, the ottomans were turks allright, but other ethnicities have
mixed in during the ethnogenesis that led to the establishment of
republic of turkey
> There are no evidences what so ever suggest that even the
>> people called turks existed in Ottoman Empire.
that is a very simplistic explanation, and above all is not true
what was happened, the khilafat system was a theocracy
all divisions were made on the basis of religion,
ethnicity was not a concern at all
>There were few
>> Turkomans who were the remains of the past invation by the Mongolian
>> tribes but they were so few that they had no authority at all. Every
>> single Greeks, Kurds, Armenians, Assyrians etc, understand that after
>> the fall of the Ottoman Empire few Devsirmes (people who have no past
>> records, stolen children from the invaded lands by the muslims)
that is a lie, while abductions might have happended, but that was
rather the exception than the rule
the dev****rme system was stricktly regulated by law
>called themselves Turks in order to made themselves in belonging to some
>> race.
you're an undereducted bull****er
turks are not concerned about race, and you should know that one time
all muslims were called "turks", so what you're saying doesn't come as
a big surprise
the soviet union was faced with a similar dillema, or rather the
morons who called all soviet citizens "russian(s)"
even tho' in reality just a minority belonged to a russian ethnicity,
and even great many of those russian have turkish and/or finnic
admixture as well
> But latter assuming or forcing to make everyone in asia-minor
>> Turks and trying to give them a false culture, language or a history
>> which have nothing to do with the realities of Anatolia make everyone
>> angry.
now your racist foot is sticking out
the culture of the turks is not more false than that most of today's
greeks
who besides bragging rights have not much to do with the hellenistic
culture, same goes for the mountain turks, theaw so called "kurds" who
have not much in common with the big hero, salah al din, if any at all
some goat herders got stuck here and there, but the ottoman dynasty
lasted and ruled for about 700 years
that's an undisputable fact
>Very interesting! I will have to look more into it. This may explain the
great
>diversity in the appearence of Turkish people.
you should do that, because you need education big time
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