Re: Can someone please explain Chechen Conflict to me?

"Ty" <tbeardSPAM@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "Unknown Usenet Poster" <yryryryr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> > Where do you get your historical knowledge -- from a Cracker Jacks
box?
>> >
>> > Jews have lived in the region for thousands of years. The current
mess
>> > that
>> > is the Middle East is the fault of the British, Arabs and the UN. And

>> > of
>> > course, of the pathologies of Islam.
>> >
>>
>> This sounds like a Stuart Wilksian classic obfuscation. Some Jews lived

>> in
>> the area. The Jews in question lived in Europe for hundreds, if not
>> thousands of years. They only decided Israel was the promised land when
> all
>> the non-Jews (not just Hitler's pals) decided it was time for them to 
>> die.
>> Up until the 1930's and 40's most EuroJews couldn't care less about
> Israel.
>>
>> Baghdad has a small Christian population. How do you thing Saddma's
> Sunni's
>> would appreciate it if all the Christians in Italy, Spain, Poland and
>> elsewhere decided to move to Baghdad?
>>
>> The British had no right to give away other people's lands. That makes
>> Israel even more illegitimate.
>
> Britain didn't "give it away". The League of Nations mandated that
Britain
> manage it and create a Jewish homeland. They disobeyed the mandate and
> divided it between Arabs (who got most of the land) and Jews. As the
legal
> predecessor to the United Nations, the League of Nations had as much
right
> as anyone to determine the status of the land. I suppose Britain should
be
> complimented for letting the League of Nations determine the fate of the
> area. Britain could have simply asserted that it was British territory
by
> right of conquest.
>
> I've always found it amusing that pro-Palestinian folks wail about 
> Israel's
> pur****ted violation of UN resolutions, yet never mention Britain's 
> violation
> of the League of Nations mandates. Why is that?
>
> I note that you failed to dispute any of the historical facts that I
> related. In particular, you failed to comment on the observation that
the
> notion of a "Palestinian state" is a recent creation of cynical Arabs 
> after
> their humiliating defeat in 1967 (to be distinguished from their 
> humiliating
> defeats in 1948, 1956, 1973, 1982, 1991 and 2003...). I wonder why?
>

Maybe it had something to do with not reading your post? After your first 
phoney fact about Jews in Palestine, you lost all credibility and I lost 
interest.

> And why do you not direct any of your self-righteous outrage at the Arab
> nations who continue to exploit the Palestinians as cheap labor and keep
> many of them locked up in concentration camps? Indeed, why are you not
> criticizing the motley assortment of Arab strongmen, crackpot mullahs
and
> murderous despots who have made the Arab world into a cesspool of human
> misery?
>

It was John F. Kennedy who convinced the Saudis to discontinue human 
slavery. It was the US that deposed Saddam. It was the US that helped put
an 
end to the Taliban in Afghanistan. It was the US that freed Kuwait from 
Saddam.

It is quite clear that moderate Arab leaders provide better lives for
their 
people than the dictators...Syria versus Jordan.

I've criticized the people you've mentioned long before you stumbled into 
this NG.

> <Non-answers predicted>
>
> --Ty
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