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Re: School Horror: What ELSE is the Russian government lying about?

by "Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj" <urjlew@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sep 8, 2004 at 02:01 PM

Eugene Holman wrote:
> In article <13ea6e3a.0409052233.6807ad41@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> palmer.william@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Bill Palmer) wrote:
> 
> 
>>Now that the Russian government has been forced
>>to admit that their first reaction to the takeover
>>of the school by murderous religious fanatics was
>>to tell a whopper of a tansparent lie about the
>>number of hostages in the school, one has to wonder 
>>what else they have been lying about.
> 
> 
> <deletions>
> 
> The number of people in buildings, trains, and schools when there is
> open-school day is not usually known with precision.
> 
> Remember that on September 11 we were initially told that there had been
> about 6,000 casualties in the WTC. It takes a while before the numbers
can
> be sorted out, and when there is a tragedy of this type unfolding in
real
> time, people have more im****tant things to do than make estimates.
> 
> For Beslan, the precise number of people in the building will never be
> known, nor will the number of victims, since a few children may have
been
> abducted by the hostage-takers  that escaped, and other people were
> charred beyond recognition or simply blown up.
> 
> <deletions>
> 
> Regards,
> Eugene Holman
Do note Eugene, that  in the NYC case the initial estimate was a 2X
overestimate. While in the Beslan case it was an understatement by
about a factor of 7X. i.e. ~200 admitted to and ~1400 people there.
Ok. the 200 was being given out as an estimate of hostages, and the
1400 is an estimate of people there. But it appears that all the
people inside were actually being held hostage.
In NYC it was a casualty estimate i.e. an estimate of the people
who didn't get out, out of a guessed number of how many  might
have been in the trade center buildings. Definitely more confusing
then in Beslan, where all that was being estimated is 'how many
people might there be in the buildings'. Also 1400 looks a lot
different than 200.
Also a reasonably accurate estimate of the size of the problem
i.e. number of people involved  would have been im****tant for
the "rescuers" anyway, so your excuse doesn't hold water.
In NYC the authorities set up a formal office to tally the dead
and missing. Wouldn't you expect the same in Beslan? With similar
results, as far as accuracy?
--
Rostyk
 




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School Horror: What ELSE is the Russian government lying about?
palmer.william@[EMAIL PRO  2004-09-05 23:33:19 
Re: School Horror: What ELSE is the Russian government lying ab
MirTopolskiRexPrez <24  2004-09-06 11:09:32 
Re: School Horror: What ELSE is the Russian government lying ab
"Rust never sleeps.&  2004-09-06 12:25:41 
Re: School Horror: What ELSE is the Russian government lying ab
"Extreme Intelligenc  2004-09-06 23:49:42 
Re: School Horror: What ELSE is the Russian government lying ab
palmer.william@[EMAIL PRO  2004-09-06 07:15:51 
Re: School Horror: What ELSE is the Russian government lying ab
MirTopolskiRexPrez <24  2004-09-06 17:17:11 
Re: School Horror: What ELSE is the Russian government lying ab
palmer.william@[EMAIL PRO  2004-09-06 22:33:09 
Re: School Horror: What ELSE is the Russian government lying ab
"Extreme Intelligenc  2004-09-07 02:34:51 
Re: School Horror: What ELSE is the Russian government lying ab
MirTopolskiRexPrez <24  2004-09-06 19:56:36 
Re: School Horror: What ELSE is the Russian government lying ab
"Rust never sleeps.&  2004-09-06 18:37:28 
Re: School Horror: What ELSE is the Russian government lying ab
Quintal <quintal@[EMAI  2004-09-06 09:28:31 
Re: School Horror: What ELSE is the Russian government lying ab
bull_brave@[EMAIL PROTECT  2004-09-06 04:45:10 
Re: School Horror: What ELSE is the Russian government lying ab
holman@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2004-09-06 15:22:28 
Re: School Horror: What ELSE is the Russian government lying ab
palmer.william@[EMAIL PRO  2004-09-06 22:51:07 
Re: School Horror: What ELSE is the Russian government lying ab
"Rostyslaw J. Lewyck  2004-09-08 14:01:43 
Re: School Horror: What ELSE is the Russian government lying ab
"Unknown Usenet Post  2004-09-08 18:28:10 
Re: School Horror: What ELSE is the Russian government lying ab
palmer.william@[EMAIL PRO  2004-09-08 21:22:51 
Re: School Horror: What ELSE is the Russian government lying ab
"Takuon Soho" &  2004-09-06 16:18:31 
Re: School Horror: What ELSE is the Russian government lying ab
"Takuon Soho" &  2004-09-09 15:01:05 

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