"Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj" <urjlew@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:aQH%c.75979$N11.74579@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Eugene Holman wrote:
>> In article <13ea6e3a.0409052233.6807ad41@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>> palmer.william@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Bill Palmer) wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Now that the Russian government has been forced
>>>to admit that their first reaction to the takeover
>>>of the school by murderous religious fanatics was
>>>to tell a whopper of a tansparent lie about the
>>>number of hostages in the school, one has to wonder what else they have
>>>been lying about.
>>
>>
>> <deletions>
>>
>> The number of people in buildings, trains, and schools when there is
>> open-school day is not usually known with precision.
>>
>> Remember that on September 11 we were initially told that there had
been
>> about 6,000 casualties in the WTC. It takes a while before the numbers
>> can
>> be sorted out, and when there is a tragedy of this type unfolding in
real
>> time, people have more im****tant things to do than make estimates.
>>
>> For Beslan, the precise number of people in the building will never be
>> known, nor will the number of victims, since a few children may have
been
>> abducted by the hostage-takers that escaped, and other people were
>> charred beyond recognition or simply blown up.
>>
>> <deletions>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Eugene Holman
> Do note Eugene, that in the NYC case the initial estimate was a 2X
> overestimate. While in the Beslan case it was an understatement by
> about a factor of 7X. i.e. ~200 admitted to and ~1400 people there.
> Ok. the 200 was being given out as an estimate of hostages, and the
> 1400 is an estimate of people there. But it appears that all the
> people inside were actually being held hostage.
> In NYC it was a casualty estimate i.e. an estimate of the people
> who didn't get out, out of a guessed number of how many might
> have been in the trade center buildings. Definitely more confusing
> then in Beslan, where all that was being estimated is 'how many
> people might there be in the buildings'. Also 1400 looks a lot
> different than 200.
> Also a reasonably accurate estimate of the size of the problem
> i.e. number of people involved would have been im****tant for
> the "rescuers" anyway, so your excuse doesn't hold water.
> In NYC the authorities set up a formal office to tally the dead
> and missing. Wouldn't you expect the same in Beslan? With similar
> results, as far as accuracy?
> --
> Rostyk
>
NYC did far more than just setup a formal office. Three entire piers were
setup to manage the situation. One pier was just for helping the families.
Just about any imaginable service was available to the families. Multiple
computer systems were setup to track everything from the families
paperwork
and death certificates to DNA from all the various body parts that were
recovered. Every "item" that was found at the WTC site had a polaroid
taken
of it and it was entered into the system.
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