"J.Venning" <Venning@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> hi, I am a chinese , it is not easy explain to you very clear.
> Most chinese people not really care about political thing. And , chinese
> really not suit for the democracy.
> CCTV nerver avoid re****t democracy in other country , and they say ,
china
> will build democracy in future , but not now. Now ,chinese is not ready.
> For my opinon , it is ture .
> did you have a msn ID , we can discuss more . :)
>
Someone in this newsgroup has been persistently claiming for over 20
years that the Chinese government is oppressing the Chinese people. What
do
you say to that? He says that freedom of speech does not exist in China.
What do you say to that? He says that Democracy should be imposed now. You
have answered that question. Someone here also said that members of the
Falung Gong are being imprisoned without trials and are executed for the
sale of their internal organs. What do you say to that?
J.
All governments oppress ppl. my govt in the U.S. oppresses ppl. China is
different only in that government corruption is accepted (i.e.,
transparent)
and the ppl know that oppression is a part of everyday life. That is
opposed to the ppl in the U.S. believing that they actually make a
difference.... but if voting mattered it'd be outlawed in the states.
Freedom of speech exists. I sit in bars, bookstores, coffee houses and
talk
about pretty much anything. I teach English courses and nothing is off
limits. I teach business courses and local professionals bring real-world
problems and real-world issues into the classroom to be solved by their
colleagues. Conversely, in the U.S. I could lose my job for saying that I
personally disagree with homo***uality, but of course professionally I
don't
care. I've been an advisor for GLBTA groups, but if I ever said "by the
way, I think we are giving you too much leeway to preach your lifestyles"
I'd have been fired. So, I 'advised'. In China I can call a rat a rat, a
spade a spade, a farce a farce, and not worry. NOW, mind you, I don't go
'round stirring up stuff, in either country.
China is NOT ready for democracy. THere are 1 Billion peasants here, with
little or no education. It would be suicide for the country.
I know several elderly ppl that still practice FLG, but not to the extreme
that the expats currently in the States and other places outside China do.
They DO NOT get sick, the DO NOT visit doctors, they meet in groups
socially. THEY DO NOT do the Jehova's witness stuff I saw posted here as
being done elsewhere in the world. Most of them say that the FLG ppl
thrown out of China were crazy and used their belief-system in a contorted
way. They hurt that they are misunderstood and forced to "hide" their
practices. When I say "hide" I don't mean from the government as much as
from other society members (they don't want to "lose face" having others
call them crazy). But in family and close friend gatherings, no such
secrecy is necessary.
Everywhere in the world, prisoners are mistreated. I see nothing wrong
with
harvesting organs from ppl that have abused their rights in society. if
we
did that in the states, we'd have much less of a prison overpopulation
problem.
I'm not Chinese, but I've lived here for a few years. I listen and learn
and enjoy studying ppl. These are my perspectives, you don't need to
agree
with them you don't need to like me and i don't need to like you. If you
want to have discourse regarding my views/comments, by all means I welcome
it.
Yok
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