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Re: This is outrageous! So you believe in being politically correct Choro-nik?

by "choro-nik" <choro-nik@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Oct 16, 2006 at 11:50 PM

White man speaketh with a forked tongue, as the Red Indian saying goes. And

now the French of the ideals of Freedom, Equality and Fraternity think
they 
have a God given right to gag people's mouths while they go on croacking.

**** the French who are being taken for a ride by the 1/2m Armenian 
population. Bloody hell, if they can be so easily fooled by the Armenians,

it doesn't say much for French intelligence, does it?

Anyway, **** the frogs. That's what I say. Screw them until it hurts read 
bad. That's the only lesson they will understand.

The Turks should stand with their heads held high and shame the French.
-- 
choro-nik
*******
"gogu" <golanule_va_da_muie@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:eh0sue$6cs$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>? "Nashton" <nananan@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ???a?e st? µ???µa
> news:FJJXg.4744$cz.68064@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Alistair Sim wrote:
>>>
>>> An extreme example of political correctness. Just what I was alluding
to
>>> in a previous article. Yes there are limits to free speech,
particularly
>>> if it involves threats to someones life or character, but this is
>>> ridiculous in the extreme. Germany is another example with its' 
>>> Holocaust
>>> Denial Law. A person has a right to believe and/or voice his or her
>>> opinion as he or she wants, within reason.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Turkish Foreign Ministry Delivers Harsh Reaction to France
>>> Thursday, October 12 2006 @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 11:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>>>
>>>
>>> The Foreign Ministry has stated that relations between Turkey and
France
>>> received a severe blow with the passing of the controversial genocide
>>> denial bill.
>>>
>>> The statement made by the ministry remarked that, "The long-standing
>>> historical relations between Turkey and France, which have grown
through
>>> the centuries with great care, have received a severe blow today
because
>>> of the irresponsible attempts - based on groundless claims - of a
group
>>> of French politicians who are unable to appreciate the consequences of
>>> the policies they follow."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The statement continues: "Despite of all the diplomatic and 
>>> parliamentary
>>> efforts carried out hand in hand at all levels for a long time by the
>>> Turkish Parliament, our citizens in France, our non-governmental
>>> organizations and business environments; after being submitted to the
>>> French National Assembly by the Socialist Party last May without any
>>> results, the passing of the bill this time on Oct.12, 2006 in the
French
>>> National Assembly, envisaging severe punishment for denying the
Armenian
>>> genocide, has caused a profound grievance."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Sheer Disappointment
>>> A statement released said that today's Armenian genocide bill would
have
>>> to go through a long process for it to become a law.
>>>
>>> It must pass through the senate before final approval by the French
>>> president.
>>>
>>> Nonetheless, with this first step taken by the French parliament, the
>>> Turkish government is disappointed.
>>>
>>> The statement also reassured the Turkish government of efforts by the
>>> French government to put a stop to any progress with the Armenian
bill.
>>>
>>> "This bill , a violation of both the French constitutional system that
>>> gives the utmost priority to freedom of expression and the European
>>> Treaty that specifies situations when freedom of expression and of
>>> thought can be restricted, goes against the values of liberty,
>>> brotherhood and equality, identified with the French nation, a source
of
>>> inspiration for free world," the statement read.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> A Typical Contradiction
>>> In the statement, it is said "It is a typical contradiction for a
>>> country's
>>> parliament to say, by means of top authorities, that the parliament
has
>>> no task of rewriting history, this responsibility belongs to
historians
>>> when it is about its own history but assumes a right to judge other
>>> states' history and to penalize." In the statement it is also
mentioned
>>> that discussing such a bill in France is an example of a double 
>>> standard.
>>> The statement reads as follows:
>>>
>>> "Despite im****tant reforms we have realized in recent years in order
to
>>> develop fundamental rights and freedoms and in a period when Turkey is
>>> advised to take additional steps on freedom of expression, the 
>>> discussion
>>> on such topics as the bill in France is another double standard. A
>>> State's
>>> credibility depends on protecting values that they lay down for others

>>> to
>>> follow.
>>>
>>> This bill takes the freedom of thought and expression hostage in a way
>>> totally contrary to a democratic regime has sparked a deep outrage in 
>>> the
>>> Turkish nation as well as in our Armenian citizens.
>>>
>>> Seventy million Turkish people reject the restriction of freedom of
>>> thought and expression with reference to baseless allegations.
>>> Unfortunately, this bill makes France lose its privileged position by 
>>> the
>>> Turkish people."
>
>
>
>> Finally, the French grow a brain.
>> I'm surprised any of the MPs took some time away from Beaujolais or
>> Bourgogne in order to enact such an insightful law.
>
>
> Even if the denial of the Armenian genocide is a despicable action, I
> believe that freedom of speech is above everything, so such a law should

> not
> be ever voted!
> It is supposed that we Europeans are better than the stratocrat fascists

> of
> Ankara and we are not using their methods!
> We are *NOT* like them!
> So let them speak, even if they LIE!
>
>
> -- 
>
> E' mai possibile, oh ****co di un cane, che le avventure
> in codesto reame debban risolversi tutte con grandi
> puttane!    F.d.A
>
> Coins, travels and more:
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/golanule/my_photos
> http://gogu.enosi.org/index.html
>
>> When Toorkey is a member of the club of civilized nations and member of
>> the EU in 3056 AD, they might get it eventually.
>>
>> -- 
>> Nicolas
>>
>>
>> "And, heaving alljawbreakical expressions out of Sare Isaac's universal

>> of
>> specious aristmystic unsaid, A is for Anna like L is for liv."
>> Finnegans Wake (293)
>>
>> ".... It means that all living things are the product of mindless 
>> material
>> forces such as chemical laws, natural selection, and random variation.
So
>> God is totally out of the picture, and humans (like everything else)
are
>> the accidental product of a purposeless universe. Do you wonder why a
lot
>> of people suspect that these claims go far beyond the available 
>> evidence?"
>> Phillip E.Johnson, The Church Of Darwin.
>
>
>
>
 




 4 Posts in Topic:
Re: This is outrageous! So you believe in being politically corr
"gogu" <gola  2006-10-17 00:17:52 
Re: This is outrageous! So you believe in being politically corr
"choro-nik" <  2006-10-16 23:50:47 
Re: This is outrageous! So you believe in being politically corr
Panta Rhei <angel@[EMA  2006-10-17 03:02:06 
Re: This is outrageous! So you believe in being politically corr
"gogu" <gola  2006-10-17 18:54:40 

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