"Agamemnon" wrote
> <repulsewarrior@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> On Jan 13, 5:07 pm, Panta Rhei <cool.multi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > pat writes:
> > > BilgeKhan wrote:
> > >
> > >> THE PROBLEM:
> > >> Turkey does not recognize SouthCyprusbecause
> > >> SouthCyprusdoes not recognize NorthCyprus...
> > >> :-)
> > >> Because of this, ****ps from South of the island cannot
> > >> enter Turkish harbors nor the harbors in NorthCyprus,
> > >> and ****ps from North of the island cannot enter Greek harbors,
> > >> nor the harbors in SouthCyprus...
> >
> > >> THE SOLUTION:
> > >> Now the following geninue solution has been found:
> >
> > >> Turkish authorities allow SouthCypriot ****ps to enter Turkish
harbors
> > >> (and NorthCyprusharbors) - provided they fly, legally, a flag of
the
> > >> Turkish Republic of NorthCyprus, or a flag of the Republic of
Turkey.
> >
> > >> Similarly, ****ps from NorthCypruscan enter Greek harbors
> > >> (and SouthCyprusharbors) - provided they fly, legally, a flag of
> > >> SouthCyprus,
> > >> or a flag of the Hellenic Republic, ie. Greece.
> >
> > >> THE CONCLUSION:
> > >> We can say this decades long nastyCyprusProblem has finally been
> > >> solved!
> >
> > >> Only Turks and Greeks are able to find such a geninue solution! :-)
> > >> It proves again: Being good neighbors pays off! :-)
> >
> > >> Whoa-oa-oa! I feel good, I knew that I would, now I feel good, I
knew
> > >> that I would, now; So good, so good, I got you Whoa!
> > >> :-)))
> >
> > > Does this mean that if a ****p uses both flags, they can enter all
****ts?
> >
> > The point is that there in no recognized TRNC! So it is completely
> > unfeasible what this mentally deficient Turkish Nazi swine, BilgeKhan,
> > suggests. A Greek ****p flying a flag of the so-called Turkish Republic
of
> > NorthernCypruswould mean it recognizing that illegal, so-called
republic.
> > <G> There is a flag already valid for both parts ofCyprus:
> >
> > "The national flag features a map of the entirety of the island, with
two
> > olive branches below (a symbol of peace) on white (another symbol of
> > peace)."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Cyprus
> >
> > NO country in the world (except fascist Turkey) recognizes the TRNC!
> >
> >
> <<<may i remind all of you that Bicommunal means three governments: the
> Republic of Cyprus and two National Assemblies.>>>
>
> No it doesn't. It means both communities must be able take part in the
> government and all the organs of government equally without
discrimination
> or preferential treatment. There cannot be two national assemblies since
> there are not two nationalities. There will be one government composed
of
> the majority which share the same political view elected by all
Cypriots,
> and one president elected by all Cypriots.
>
> <<<and may i also remind you that Bizonal does not mean a division of
the
> island in two. it may mean two geographic parts, with each made up of
> several components.>>>
>
> Bi-zonal can not mean any kind of geographic or physical separation
> whatsoever. Each community will be allowed to administer its own
religious
> and educational affairs in the places it lives and that is it, and if
> members of the other community live in the same places then they will
> administer their own religious and educational affairs as well,
therefore
> there cannot be any borders.
>
> You can't have the Turkish Cypriots dictating to the Greek Cypriots
> that they must all speak Turkish in order to have and education
> or to have the right to vote or to have Children which is what the
> Annan Plan would have had.
I would say you are making cheap lie propaganda.
I'm challenging you to present a proof for the above said statement.
> A Bi-zonal Bi-Communal Federation is effectively the same as a Unitary
State
> with protection of minority rights. The Annan Plan on the other hand was
a
> plan for complete partition.
> It's time for the term Bi-zonal Bi-Communal Federation to be dropped and
> replaced with a Unitary State which protects the rights of Minorities.
We already had such a 'solution', but it unfortunately didn't work;
the result is well known, and since 1974 the island is divided.
The Annan Plan proposed the creation of the "United Cyprus Republic",
a loose confederation of two component states - the Greek Cypriot State
and the Turkish Cypriot State - joined together by a minimal
federal government apparatus, similar to the Swiss confederal model.
It was the GreekCypriots who opposed this solution, Turks had voted for
it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annan_Plan_for_Cyprus
IMO the best solution is to have 2 independent states on the island:
GreekCypriots in the South and TurkishCypriots in the North
(FYI: this is also the de facto status since 1974, ie. now for more than
30 years).
And both states should be made EU members AND Schengen-participants.
The latter means open borders and right of free settlement etc. in all
Schengen-member countries, ie. here especially between the two
states on the island.
Another IMO good solution would be to make SouthCyprus
part of Greece, and NorthCyprus part of Turkey.
But with this solution some security issues arise, therefore
it would be necessary that both parts of the
island must be kept demilitarized forever.
The UN should be made the primary protector/guarantor of the island,
secondary guarantors of course Turkey and Greece for their
own respective part of the island.


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