To All the People of the World!
I urge you to study what this GreekCypriot guy has written below.
It explains many things!
Especially how brainwashed the GreekCypriot people are due to
the state propaganda by their own so called government!
Please decide yourself! :-)))
Is anybody left who still wonders why the Cyprus Problem is hard to solve?
:-)
Agamemnon boy, you are so BRAINWASHED by the GreekCypriot propaganda!
You, and many other GreekCypriots are a victims of the GreekCypriot lie
propaganda.
Try to think yourself!
"Agamemnon" wrote
> "BilgeKhan" wrote
> > "Agamemnon" wrote
> >> <repulsewarrior@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote
> >> On Jan 13, 5:07 pm, Panta Rhei <cool.multi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >> > pat writes:
> >> > > BilgeKhan wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> THE PROBLEM:
> >> > >> Turkey does not recognize SouthCyprusbecause
> >> > >> SouthCyprusdoes not recognize NorthCyprus...
> >> > >> :-)
> >> > >> Because of this, ****ps from South of the island cannot
> >> > >> enter Turkish harbors nor the harbors in NorthCyprus,
> >> > >> and ****ps from North of the island cannot enter Greek harbors,
> >> > >> nor the harbors in SouthCyprus...
> >> >
> >> > >> THE SOLUTION:
> >> > >> Now the following geninue solution has been found:
> >> >
> >> > >> Turkish authorities allow SouthCypriot ****ps to enter Turkish
> >> > >> harbors
> >> > >> (and NorthCyprusharbors) - provided they fly, legally, a flag of
the
> >> > >> Turkish Republic of NorthCyprus, or a flag of the Republic of
> >> > >> Turkey.
> >> >
> >> > >> Similarly, ****ps from NorthCypruscan enter Greek harbors
> >> > >> (and SouthCyprusharbors) - provided they fly, legally, a flag of
> >> > >> SouthCyprus,
> >> > >> or a flag of the Hellenic Republic, ie. Greece.
> >> >
> >> > >> THE CONCLUSION:
> >> > >> We can say this decades long nastyCyprusProblem has finally been
> >> > >> solved!
> >> >
> >> > >> Only Turks and Greeks are able to find such a geninue solution!
:-)
> >> > >> It proves again: Being good neighbors pays off! :-)
> >> >
> >> > >> Whoa-oa-oa! I feel good, I knew that I would, now I feel good, I
> >> > >> knew
> >> > >> that I would, now; So good, so good, I got you Whoa!
> >> > >> :-)))
> >> >
> >> > > Does this mean that if a ****p uses both flags, they can enter all
> >> > > ****ts?
> >> >
> >> > The point is that there in no recognized TRNC! So it is completely
> >> > unfeasible what this mentally deficient Turkish Nazi swine,
BilgeKhan,
> >> > suggests. A Greek ****p flying a flag of the so-called Turkish
Republic
> >> > of
> >> > NorthernCypruswould mean it recognizing that illegal, so-called
> >> > republic.
> >> > <G> There is a flag already valid for both parts ofCyprus:
> >> >
> >> > "The national flag features a map of the entirety of the island,
with
> >> > two
> >> > olive branches below (a symbol of peace) on white (another symbol
of
> >> > peace)."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Cyprus
> >> >
> >> > NO country in the world (except fascist Turkey) recognizes the
TRNC!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> <<<may i remind all of you that Bicommunal means three governments:
the
> >> Republic of Cyprus and two National Assemblies.>>>
> >>
> >> No it doesn't. It means both communities must be able take part in
the
> >> government and all the organs of government equally without
> >> discrimination
> >> or preferential treatment. There cannot be two national assemblies
since
> >> there are not two nationalities. There will be one government
composed of
> >> the majority which share the same political view elected by all
Cypriots,
> >> and one president elected by all Cypriots.
> >>
> >> <<<and may i also remind you that Bizonal does not mean a division of
the
> >> island in two. it may mean two geographic parts, with each made up of
> >> several components.>>>
> >>
> >> Bi-zonal can not mean any kind of geographic or physical separation
> >> whatsoever. Each community will be allowed to administer its own
> >> religious
> >> and educational affairs in the places it lives and that is it, and if
> >> members of the other community live in the same places then they will
> >> administer their own religious and educational affairs as well,
therefore
> >> there cannot be any borders.
> >>
> >> You can't have the Turkish Cypriots dictating to the Greek Cypriots
> >> that they must all speak Turkish in order to have and education
> >> or to have the right to vote or to have Children which is what the
> >> Annan Plan would have had.
> >
> > I would say you are making cheap lie propaganda.
> > I'm challenging you to present a proof for the above said statement.
>
> Read the Turkish Cypriot Constituent State so-called "constitution" in
the
> Annan Plan V. It's all there.
>
http://www.moi.gov.cy/moi/pio/pio.nsf/All/B7CC10D781AC186AC2256E7000254D3E?OpenDo***ent
>
> The right to vote would only be granted to those whose mother language
was
> Turkish, so the Greek Cypriots could not participate in the government.
>
> The right of so-called "citizen****p" would only be granted to those
whose
> mother language was Turkish, so the Greek Cypriots would not have any
> rights.
>
> The official language was to be Turkish and only Turkish so that Greek
> Cypriots could not be educated in their own language, and the Turks were
to
> be given control over the right to education of the Greek Cypriots, so
the
> Greek Cypriots were not guaranteed the right to set up their schools.
>
> The Greek Cypriot population in any individual village was to be limited
to
> no more than 6% of the population in the first 6 or so years, then 12%
after
> another 6 or so more years and no greater than 18% after 20 years, and
the
> Turks were alowed the impose any limit they wanted at any time they
liked if
> they wanted to restrict the number of Greek Cyprots even further,
meaning
> that the Greek Cypritos could not have children.
>
> On top of that Greek Cypriots were to be forbidden from buying or
selling
> property or establi****ng businesses in the Turkish Cypriot Constituent
> State.
>
> Greek Cypriots were to have 2/3 of their property confiscated and given
to
> the Turks who were illegally occupying it for free, and would have no
right
> to return to the rest if Turks were already living there. Greek Cypriots
> would also be made to compensate themselves for their own property with
> their own tax money, and to be banned from appealing to the European
Court
> of Human Rights.
>
> Call that a solution. It's a DISGRACE!
>
> >
> >> A Bi-zonal Bi-Communal Federation is effectively the same as a
Unitary
> >> State
> >> with protection of minority rights. The Annan Plan on the other hand
was
> >> a
> >> plan for complete partition.
> >> It's time for the term Bi-zonal Bi-Communal Federation to be dropped
and
> >> replaced with a Unitary State which protects the rights of
Minorities.
> >
> > We already had such a 'solution', but it unfortunately didn't work;
> > the result is well known, and since 1974 the island is divided.
>
> BULL****. There was no such solution ever. The British imposed 1960
> constitution treated the Greek Cypriots as second class citizens and
gave
> the Turkish Cypriots the blanker right of veto and dispro****tionate
numbers
> in the government, parliament and the civil service and judiciary which
they
> used to paralyse the government.
>
> >
> > The Annan Plan proposed the creation of the "United Cyprus Republic",
> > a loose confederation of two component states - the Greek Cypriot
State
> > and the Turkish Cypriot State - joined together by a minimal
> > federal government apparatus, similar to the Swiss confederal model.
>
> It bore NO SIMILARITY WHATSOEVER to the Swiss confederal model.
Switzerland
> is made up of 23 Cantons, so that in each canton no one language group
is
> dominated by any other. Where were the cantons in the Annan Plan which
> ensured that all the villages with a Greek Cypriot majority in the
occupied
> areas, which is 90%, were placed under Greek Cypriot administration.
NOWHERE
> TO BE FOUND. Where in the Swiss constitution were a minority of only 10%
of
> the population given half the seats in the senate and 25% of the seats
in
> the lower house and the blanket right of veto. Where in the Swiss
> constitution were foreigners put in charge of the constitutional court,
the
> supreme court and the national bank?
>
> > It was the GreekCypriots who opposed this solution, Turks had voted
for it.
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annan_Plan_for_Cyprus
> >
>
> The above solution was one of PARTITION. That is why the Greek Cypriots
> opposed it.
>
>
> > IMO the best solution is to have 2 independent states on the island:
> > GreekCypriots in the South and TurkishCypriots in the North
>
> YOU MUST BE JOKING!
>
> You are effetely demanding the legalisation of the current status-quo
> brought about by illegal aggression and ethnic cleansing. Why should any
> Greek Cypriot agree to that have Cyprus turned into what will
effectively be
> a province of Turkey.
>
> > (FYI: this is also the de facto status since 1974, ie. now for more
than
> > 30 years).
> > And both states should be made EU members AND Schengen-participants.
> > The latter means open borders and right of free settlement etc. in all
> > Schengen-member countries, ie. here especially between the two
> > states on the island.
>
> And do you think the Turks including nearly 200,000 illegal Turkish
> colonists are ever going to allowed the Greek Cypriots to return to
their
> homes which they are occupying? Look at what they demanded in the Annan
Plan
> in order to prevent the Greek Cypriots who made up the majority of the
> population in the north from returning.
>
> >
> > Another IMO good solution would be to make SouthCyprus
> > part of Greece, and NorthCyprus part of Turkey.
> > But with this solution some security issues arise, therefore
> > it would be necessary that both parts of the
> > island must be kept demilitarized forever.
> > The UN should be made the primary protector/guarantor of the island,
> > secondary guarantors of course Turkey and Greece for their
> > own respective part of the island.
>
> Yer, yer, yer, The Turks to be allowed to remain guarantors of Cyprus so
> they can complete the genocide that they started in 1974, which the UN
did
> nothing to stop. YOU STILL MUST BE JOKING!
>
> The ONLY acceptable solution is a SINGLE UNITARY STATE with all the
40,000
> Turkish troops and over 160,000 Turkish colonists repatriated to Turkey
and
> all the Greek Cypriot refugees returning to their home in the north and
a
> government based on majority rule and the protection of minority rights,
> just like in the rest of the EU!
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