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Re: 100,000,000 Killed

by "Meldon" <meldon@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 20, 2008 at 09:47 PM

"Dave Smith" <adavid.smith@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:47BCC86D.FDB85F01@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Chom Noamsky wrote:
>
>> "
>> >> More than one hundred million is the approximate combined number of
>> >> fallen
>> >> soldiers from both world wars. The vast majority were caucasian
males.
>> >> Neither war directly threatened North America.
>> >
>> > Where do you get the 100 million figure. There were 8.5 million
>> > soldiers
>> > killed in WW I and  almost 6 million killed in WW II. Of those, there
>> > were
>> > 1,7
>> > million Japanese and 3.5 million Chinese casualties.  The war between
>> > China
>> > and Japan started a few years before war broke out in Europe and it
was
>> > another 2 years before Japan attacked the US.
>> >
>> > As for North Americans, they suffered among the lowest number of
>> > casualties.
>>
>> There were 25 million soldiers killed in WWII and 10 million in WWI. 
The
>> 100 million figure includes civilian casualties.  Civilian casualties
>> from
>> both world wars exceed the number of military casualties by a wide
margin
>
> Meldon said "fallen soldiers", not civilians and then claims that the
vast
> majority were caucasion men. Japan invaded China years before WW II
broke
> out in
> Europe, and another two years before the US entered the war as a result
of
> the
> Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.  Between the Japanese and Chinese, both
> non
> caucasion to the best of my recollection, there were more than 5 million
> soldiers killed. He completely disregarded the Korean War, which saw a
> total of
> 329,000 North Koreans and Chinese  killed in a war started by North
Korea.
> He
> also neglected the Vietnamese war, started by the NV which led to more
> than 1.1
> million NV soldiers killed. He neglected the Iran-Iraq war, a
> non-caucasion war
> with more than 1 million soldiers killed. And let's not forget the
> numerous and
> ongoing wars in Africa.

I'm not an historian or an expert in warfare statistics but I wonder why
six
million is burned into my conscious like a woodburning tool on birch while
the tragedy of WWII casualties in the hundreds of millions I had to
research.



>
> Look at China alone..... more than 1 million battle deaths in the civil
> war, 2-5
> million killed in the rural purges,  20-43 million killed in the Great
> Leap
> Forward, 2-7 million killed in the Cultural Revolution, 20 million
deaths
> in the
> labour camps and another 1 million or so in Tibet. There have been
> somewhere
> between 44.5 - 72 million people killed in Chinese internal conflicts
> since the
> end of WW II, more than all those killed in WW I and 11 combined, and
> caucasions
> were not involved.
>
>
>

I'm simply pointing out the number of allies, mostly caucasian who died
during the two world wars . We can certainly examine caucasian mortality
in
other wars if you wish but it is hardly necessary. One hundred million is
enough to make the point.
 




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100,000,000 Killed
"Meldon" <me  2008-02-20 16:21:34 
Re: 100,000,000 Killed
kmcvay@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-20 21:39:08 
Re: 100,000,000 Killed
Pisano <kenpisano@[EMA  2008-02-20 16:52:42 
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"SaPeIsMa" <  2008-02-20 16:58:36 
Re: 100,000,000 Killed
"Meldon" <me  2008-02-20 18:49:01 
Re: 100,000,000 Killed
"Chom Noamsky"   2008-02-20 21:59:44 
Re: 100,000,000 Killed
"Meldon" <me  2008-02-20 17:12:43 
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"Anarchore" <  2008-02-21 01:50:56 
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"Meldon" <me  2008-02-20 21:15:41 
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"Anarchore" <  2008-02-22 02:49:20 
Re: 100,000,000 Killed
kmcvay@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-22 04:59:09 
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"Meldon" <me  2008-02-22 00:31:11 
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"Meldon" <me  2008-02-22 00:30:07 
Re: 100,000,000 Killed
bks@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (B  2008-02-20 22:06:37 
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"SaPeIsMa" <  2008-02-20 16:59:28 
Re: 100,000,000 Killed
Dave Smith <adavid.smi  2008-02-20 18:10:50 
Re: 100,000,000 Killed
"Chom Noamsky"   2008-02-20 23:35:14 
Re: 100,000,000 Killed
Dave Smith <adavid.smi  2008-02-20 19:40:13 
Re: 100,000,000 Killed
"Meldon" <me  2008-02-20 21:47:15 
Re: 100,000,000 Killed
"Chom Noamsky"   2008-02-21 02:58:56 
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kmcvay@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-21 03:54:37 
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"Meldon" <me  2008-02-21 00:04:01 
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kmcvay@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-21 06:41:02 
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"Meldon" <me  2008-02-21 02:46:41 
Re: 100,000,000 Killed
kmcvay@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-21 17:00:01 
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"Meldon" <me  2008-02-20 18:53:49 
Re: 100,000,000 Killed
Dave Smith <adavid.smi  2008-02-20 19:51:09 
Re: 100,000,000 Killed
"Meldon" <me  2008-02-20 21:45:20 
Re: 100,000,000 Killed
Dave Smith <adavid.smi  2008-02-20 21:04:55 
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"Meldon" <me  2008-02-20 21:49:25 
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"vernon O" <  2008-02-20 16:55:22 
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Dave Smith <adavid.smi  2008-02-21 13:55:10 
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bob young <alaspectrum  2008-02-21 21:49:03 
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kmcvay@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-22 04:59:58 
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"Meldon" <me  2008-02-22 00:24:39 
Re: 100,000,000 Gentiles and one moron, Meltdown?
kmcvay@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-22 06:14:19 
Re: 100,000,000 Gentiles and one moron, Meltdown?
"Meldon" <me  2008-02-22 02:27:36 
Re: 100,000,000 Killed
"Meldon" <me  2008-02-22 00:20:30 
Re: 100,000,000 Killed
kmcvay@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-22 06:12:39 
Re: 100,000,000 Killed
"Meldon" <me  2008-02-22 02:29:48 

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