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Logical Deduction?

by "oje t'mish" <oje t'mish@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Dec 30, 2007 at 02:25 PM

Joseph is said to have interpreted the dreams of the baker and the 
cupbearer to refer to their immediate futures. He correcty predicted that 
the royal baker would be iimpaled, and the royal cupbearer would be
restored 
to his position.

     But maybe he just guess, and the odds were fifty-fifty that one man 
would live, and one man would die. On the other hand, why couldn't both
men 
remain imprisoned (TT), or both men be freed (HH), or one man stay in 
prison, and the other be released (H v T). As it happened, both were freed

from prison (HH), but one was executed, and one was restored (H v T).  So 
the odds of Joseph guessing everything correctly were, what?  l/4 x l/2 x 
1/2 =  l/16?  Difficult, but not impossible.(Not that I coulddo it, mind 
you.)

   But if he was just guessing, why did he pick the cupbearer to give his 
petition for clemency to?  Maybe it was a cadgy guess. The cupbearer would

be closer to Pharaoh, and have his ear, whereas the baker most likely 
wouldn't. So why not predict the cupbearer would live?

   But, wait. How could Joseph predict the release of the prisoners, and
the 
execution of the baker, and therestoration, rather than the dismissal, of 
the cupbearer?

   Possibly they were thrown in the royal prison until Pharaoh could
arrive 
at a correct judgment of guilt; perhaps one was innocent,and the other was

guilty,and Pharaoh was not sure which to blame. Meanwhile, Pharaoh kept
them 
in prison for a year just to make sure that they both got some punishment.

The fact that Pharaoh got angry at both the cupbearer and the baker, and 
threw them into prison, suggests either that he thought one was culpable, 
but wasn't sure which, or he thought they were both responsible together
for 
some sort of offense. The fact that Pharaoh resdtored the baker shows it
was 
not a case of conspiracy against Pharaoh.

   The usual punishment  for anyone convicted of an offense against
Pharaoh 
might have been excution by impaling; after all, one must set a public 
example when it comes to poor etiquette in others. So Joseph would have 
known that. He could have also known from the chief jailer that they would

be released in 3 days.

    Now, Joseph may have misinterpreted both dreams. They weren't really 
prophetic at all, but reflected the individuals dwelling on their crime.
The 
crime of the baker had been, as we can infer, to let birds poop on
Pharaoh's 
special birthday cake, covered with white frosting and bits of chocolate.
In 
other words, he left the kitchen window open.
The crime of the cupbearer, as may be inferred from his dream, is that he 
did not personally prepare the grape juice for the Pharaoh (who was
god/man, 
and therefore a teetotle, or maybe an adolescent, and his mother did not 
allow him to drink wine.), or else he did not personally hand the cup to 
Pharaoh. I suspect that the cupbearer completed the first half of the
task, 
but then he took the cup of grapejuice into the kitchen to personally 
inspect the cake, but he had to go to the bathroom, and while he was gone 
the birds pooped in Phraoh's cup.
     After careful and prolonged thought, Pharaoh finally decided that it 
was the baker's fault for letting the birds into the kitchen, and that the

cupbearer could not be blamed for going to the bathroom.




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Logical Deduction?
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