Rainbowmatrix wrote:
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> On Jan 4, 1:13 am, collectio...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On Jan 3, 6:51 am, concerned <bebuy...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > On Jan 3, 12:09 am, collectio...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > Rainbowmatrix wrote:
> > > > > On Jan 2, 11:24 am, collectio...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > > On Jan 1, 10:13 pm, Rainbowmatrix
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> > > > > > <rainbowrockfoundat...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > > > On Jan 2, 5:26 am, collectio...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > > > > On Jan 1, 6:16 pm, userjn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > > > > > On Jan 1, 6:05?pm, collectio...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > > > > > > Basically, the missing key is this:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Well... all spirit needs to be able to choose right?
But what does it
> > > > > > > > > > choose from? From options right?
> >
> > > > > > > > > > But where do these options come from? Options don't
"just exist". The
> > > > > > > > > > only thing that "just exists", is spirit. With no
options to choose
> > > > > > > > > > from, there is no freedom to choose. And thus we are
mere machines.
> > > > > > > > > > And we aren't machines! So there must be some options
in there
> > > > > > > > > > somewhere? But where did they come from?
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Now here, is the missing key. The grand final missing
piece of the
> > > > > > > > > > puzzle.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > ? ? ? ? **in order to make reality work, SPIRIT had to
become the options**
> >
> > > > > > > > > > You see, spirit has the ability of being anything. It
can be many non-
> > > > > > > > > > self-contradictory things at once even! It's possible
to be in two
> > > > > > > > > > places, or be both a banana and an apple if it wants
to, as long as
> > > > > > > > > > the banana and apple don't contradict each other, that
they don't
> > > > > > > > > > interact in some causally impossible way.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Well... For spirit to choose, it needs options. So
spirit has to be
> > > > > > > > > > options.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > That basically means, that the "engines of
creation"... are basically
> > > > > > > > > > YOU as a group.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > One piece of spirit can't alone be an option and the
spirit and
> > > > > > > > > > interact with itself (at least I can't see how it
can). But many
> > > > > > > > > > sparks of spirit can interact with each other. Taking
turns to be
> > > > > > > > > > options or to be the chooser.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > The option could be something like "allow him to go
forward or left or
> > > > > > > > > > other directions"... or "allow him to fly using
magic", or "allow him
> > > > > > > > > > to feel this feeling or that feeling"... And the
chooser chooses. Now
> > > > > > > > > > obviously, on Earth we don't get "the choice to fly
using magic". In
> > > > > > > > > > fact on Earth, we get pretty crappy choices. The
choice between lying
> > > > > > > > > > to save yourself and harm another innocent. The choice
between being a
> > > > > > > > > > slave or a whore. The choice between being paying
taxes to fund liars,
> > > > > > > > > > or going to jail.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Not nice choices we get here on Earth, eh?
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Do you get that? It is you that creates reality. It is
you that has
> > > > > > > > > > made the world you see. When you get a feeling, or see
a colour... it
> > > > > > > > > > is someone else's spirit you are interacting with,
directly. It is
> > > > > > > > > > them. And the same for you.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Now... here is the problem. What if that spirit...
isn't good spirit?
> >
> > > > > > > > > > What if those spirits are selfish and sadistic? Just
as people are?
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Then there are only "selfish and sadistic options".
Options that will
> > > > > > > > > > turn on you, creating a FALSE REALITY.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Well... this creates a problem. Because merely in
order to THINK,
> > > > > > > > > > those spirits who are innocent, need the permission of
those non-good
> > > > > > > > > > spirits who are "being options" to think! Because
thinking too,
> > > > > > > > > > requires energy. "The options" will lie, twist and
pervert reality to
> > > > > > > > > > stop those who are innocent, from seeing the truth,
feeling the truth,
> > > > > > > > > > or thinking even.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Now, when the groundwork, the basis of reality itself
is being
> > > > > > > > > > perverted, and there is nothing to stop them or save
them...
> >
> > > > > > > > > > This creates a problem. How can you even tell what
reality is when
> > > > > > > > > > reality is trying to destroy your thoughts? And so...
humanity never
> > > > > > > > > > did come to understand reality.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Just as humans are lying, and destroying the ability
of others to
> > > > > > > > > > understand the truth by printing false articles in
newspapers, lying
> > > > > > > > > > to their friends to stir them up against an innocent
enemy, so reality
> > > > > > > > > > in turn itself turns against humans, making them
stupid and unable to
> > > > > > > > > > understand reality. So they become stuck in a boring
nasty world full
> > > > > > > > > > of confusion.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Now, Earth is really the lowest point in the Universe
that is worth
> > > > > > > > > > saving. Lower points will not be saved.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > There are beings from higher plants, where the beings
there are
> > > > > > > > > > innocent. And their ability to think has ALSO been
harmed by the
> > > > > > > > > > humans! That is how powerful spirit is!
> >
> > > > > > > > > > DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE SPIRIT.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > A single spark of spirit (and a soul contains a huge
number of sparks)
> > > > > > > > > > has the ability to create infinite realities. Spirit
is that powerful.
> > > > > > > > > > You may look like stupid nasty ugly boring losers who
can't spell a
> > > > > > > > > > single sentance right let alone be all powerful, but
you really are
> > > > > > > > > > all powerful. The thing is... the spirits being harmed
by you are ALSO
> > > > > > > > > > all powerful. So they fight back. And you get yourself
perverted and
> > > > > > > > > > trapped by the devil, making you stupid, weak and
nastier...
> >
> > > > > > > > > > The solution to this predicament... of having humans,
who are kinda
> > > > > > > > > > bad but not all that bad, but can really drag things
into hell when
> > > > > > > > > > they feel like it and play host to the devil... the
solution was not
> > > > > > > > > > easy.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > It required the entire of reality to assist in helping
turn this
> > > > > > > > > > insanity that humans have created, around.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Humans have perfected insanity. You want your insanity
to go on
> > > > > > > > > > forever. You have perfected creating and insane false
reality, in
> > > > > > > > > > which there are no answers.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > And this... is a sin.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Your reality always self-destroys in the end. The only
difference is
> > > > > > > > > > if those who are innocent living on other planets, let
you humans get
> > > > > > > > > > away with destroying the Universe or destroy you first
and go on
> > > > > > > > > > living in paradise without you.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > You can cross to the other side of reality, humans.
But it won't be
> > > > > > > > > > easy. It will hurt. Your sadism must be "extracted"
from you, at the
> > > > > > > > > > cost of your self-interest. You must kill off your own
sadistic side,
> > > > > > > > > > by throwing at it your own self-interests as food. No
longer harming
> > > > > > > > > > others. Only yourself. Then you will be innocent.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > The process will seem like it takes forever. I'm
sorry. But it will
> > > > > > > > > > seem that way. Perhaps in a sense it does. (Let me
know how it works
> > > > > > > > > > after you cross over, OK?)
> >
> > > > > > > > > > After having crossed over, you will be a lesser,
smaller being, after
> > > > > > > > > > having lost a part of your self-interest, but
innocent. You may
> > > > > > > > > > protest, but this is better than letting you destroy
US who are
> > > > > > > > > > innocent, and anyhow you were about to destroy each
other anyhow, so
> > > > > > > > > > what did it matter that now you are less.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > And once you are innocent, we can show you how to
grow.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > ...
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Imagine Joan. Joan is your typical human.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Joan has "some sadism" (a little), a lot of
self-interest, and no true-
> > > > > > > > > > care. This is a very useful 3D measure of Joan, using
3 axis (true-
> > > > > > > > > > care/selfinterest/sadism).
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Due to Joan's low nature, she has sadism and doesn't
mind destroying
> > > > > > > > > > everyone just for the hell of it. As long as it
doesn't backfire on
> > > > > > > > > > her, she'll do it! She has no true-care to stop her
pulling things
> > > > > > > > > > down infinitely hard.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > The only thing that stops Joan, is her self-interest.
She lives a
> > > > > > > > > > life... finding that being sadistic to others
backfires on her. So...
> > > > > > > > > > sometimes, but not always she decides to just get on
with things and
> > > > > > > > > > look after herself, care for others because caring
helps her too, and
> > > > > > > > > > build a future for herself.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > But othertimes she is being sadistic. Even if she is
only being a
> > > > > > > > > > bitch for 3 hours per day, she is still being a bitch
on purpose for 3
> > > > > > > > > > hours a day. So that's her sadism. Maybe not evil, but
it is still
> > > > > > > > > > "some sadism".
> >
> > > > > > > > > > And she never goes out of her way to do the right
thing, to help
> > > > > > > > > > innocent others for the sake of it. Only to help
innocent others cos
> > > > > > > > > > it helps herself too.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > OK, that is Joan.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Well... ?that's also your typical human. Most humans
have a lot of
> > > > > > > > > > self-interest, a little sadism, and some true-care.
> >
> > > > > > > > > Not necessarily typical human
> > > > > > > > > Why are you posting this on sci logic? Are you spamming
us?
> >
> > > > > > > > Since when did spam consist of two posts with different,
and original
> > > > > > > > content?
> >
> > > > > > > > Seems like the very OPPOSITE of spam.
> >
> > > > > > > > Are you being evil? Sounds like it.
> >
> > > > > > > > I post on sci.logic because logic is needed to understand
reality. My
> > > > > > > > message... it is logical. A logic-processor, a logic AI
could
> > > > > > > > understand the engines of creation of reality, and help to
create a
> > > > > > > > new one, a better one!- Hide quoted text -
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> > > > > > > Not evey one has the same thaught process or perception of
what is
> > > > > > > LOGICAL
> >
> > > > > > You can't spell, but you are a danger.
> >
> > > > > > You are insane, you see.
> >
> > > > > > Just because others don't have the same understanding of what
is
> > > > > > logical... does not mean that what is logical is different.
Perception
> > > > > > is not logic. Logic is higher than perception.
> >
> > > > > > > Now universal LORE is not even LOGICAL thats What NATURAL
PHINOMINON
> >
> > > > > > lol. That's the stupidest spelling I've seen.
> >
> > > > > > > Shit they say the natural order is Chaios But the earth and
the
> > > > > > > universe is so precicly balanced all bodies MAGNETS spinning
in a
> > > > > > > Vacume
> >
> > > > > > Because of logic.
> >
> > > > > > > Snap out of it Nothing lives for ever
> >
> > > > > > Tell me that when your statement you made, is about to destroy
your
> > > > > > soul and you are begging reality for more time to live in.-
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> > > > > Dislexic but have a great understanding of logic
> > > > > you see geniticly I have procreated and nourished those
decendants and
> > > > > I have also acheaved and Spiritually I have caused no harm and
well if
> > > > > the spirit is able to contact and encourage my decendants to
survive
> > > > > far into the future I will pass to the DOWIE quite happly so
Nothing
> > > > > in this dimension lives for ever its all obout recycling Just
call me
> > > > > the mad hatter DO you want me to post you my certification
> > > > > all in the GIENES YOU know? D.N.A =DO NOT ALTER
> >
> > > > There will be no descendants to reincarnate into...
> >
> > > > Because your world is destroying itself.
> >
> > > > And your world is destroying itself because of your negativity.
> > > > Because of the false reality you've created. Growing old is
> > > > unnecessary. If you want to die when you reach 100 or 200 or 300
> > > > because you are bored, and feel like it's time to reincarnate,
then
> > > > fine, do that. But it's still possible to be 400 and look like you
did
> > > > when you were 18.
> >
> > > > At least in the future reality, this will be possible. Not in this
> > > > false reality full of lies, though.
> >
> > > mate you just cant live for ever especially if you do not have
> > > compatible gene sequences to anchor you in this harmonic frequency
we
> > > exist in .to remember you and allow you to reincarnate for your
> > > dominant genes to manifest in your descendants.
> >
> > I can do anything.
> >
> > Anything innocent anyhow.
> >
> > I told you. This reality's time is up. And secondly... who said I want
> > to "live forever". I just want to live fully young, with no artificial
> > limit to freedom (meaning I can be young but something stops me being
> > powerful or wise or inventive) as long as I feel like. Whether that's
> > a few centuries or millenia...
> and you have only just realised this ?
This is off-topic for sci.logic.
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