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> > > > > > Rainbowmatrix wrote:
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> > > > > > > > On Jan 1, 10:13�pm, Rainbowmatrix
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> > > > > > > > > On Jan 2, 5:26�am, collectio...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > > > > > > On Jan 1, 6:16�pm, userjn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 1, 6:05?pm, collectio...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > > > > > > > > Basically, the missing key is this:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Well... all spirit needs to be able to choose
right? But what does it
> > > > > > > > > > > > choose from? From options right?
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > But where do these options come from? Options
don't "just exist". The
> > > > > > > > > > > > only thing that "just exists", is spirit. With no
options to choose
> > > > > > > > > > > > from, there is no freedom to choose. And thus we
are mere machines.
> > > > > > > > > > > > And we aren't machines! So there must be some
options in there
> > > > > > > > > > > > somewhere? But where did they come from?
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Now here, is the missing key. The grand final
missing piece of the
> > > > > > > > > > > > puzzle.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > ? ? ? ? **in order to make reality work, SPIRIT
had to become the options**
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > You see, spirit has the ability of being anything.
It can be many non-
> > > > > > > > > > > > self-contradictory things at once even! It's
possible to be in two
> > > > > > > > > > > > places, or be both a banana and an apple if it
wants to, as long as
> > > > > > > > > > > > the banana and apple don't contradict each other,
that they don't
> > > > > > > > > > > > interact in some causally impossible way.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Well... For spirit to choose, it needs options. So
spirit has to be
> > > > > > > > > > > > options.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > That basically means, that the "engines of
creation"... are basically
> > > > > > > > > > > > YOU as a group.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > One piece of spirit can't alone be an option and
the spirit and
> > > > > > > > > > > > interact with itself (at least I can't see how it
can). But many
> > > > > > > > > > > > sparks of spirit can interact with each other.
Taking turns to be
> > > > > > > > > > > > options or to be the chooser.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > The option could be something like "allow him to
go forward or left or
> > > > > > > > > > > > other directions"... or "allow him to fly using
magic", or "allow him
> > > > > > > > > > > > to feel this feeling or that feeling"... And the
chooser chooses. Now
> > > > > > > > > > > > obviously, on Earth we don't get "the choice to
fly using magic". In
> > > > > > > > > > > > fact on Earth, we get pretty crappy choices. The
choice between lying
> > > > > > > > > > > > to save yourself and harm another innocent. The
choice between being a
> > > > > > > > > > > > slave or a whore. The choice between being paying
taxes to fund liars,
> > > > > > > > > > > > or going to jail.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Not nice choices we get here on Earth, eh?
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Do you get that? It is you that creates reality.
It is you that has
> > > > > > > > > > > > made the world you see. When you get a feeling, or
see a colour... it
> > > > > > > > > > > > is someone else's spirit you are interacting with,
directly. It is
> > > > > > > > > > > > them. And the same for you.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Now... here is the problem. What if that spirit...
isn't good spirit?
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > What if those spirits are selfish and sadistic?
Just as people are?
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Then there are only "selfish and sadistic
options". Options that will
> > > > > > > > > > > > turn on you, creating a FALSE REALITY.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Well... this creates a problem. Because merely in
order to THINK,
> > > > > > > > > > > > those spirits who are innocent, need the
permission of those non-good
> > > > > > > > > > > > spirits who are "being options" to think! Because
thinking too,
> > > > > > > > > > > > requires energy. "The options" will lie, twist and
pervert reality to
> > > > > > > > > > > > stop those who are innocent, from seeing the
truth, feeling the truth,
> > > > > > > > > > > > or thinking even.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Now, when the groundwork, the basis of reality
itself is being
> > > > > > > > > > > > perverted, and there is nothing to stop them or
save them...
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > This creates a problem. How can you even tell what
reality is when
> > > > > > > > > > > > reality is trying to destroy your thoughts? And
so... humanity never
> > > > > > > > > > > > did come to understand reality.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Just as humans are lying, and destroying the
ability of others to
> > > > > > > > > > > > understand the truth by printing false articles in
newspapers, lying
> > > > > > > > > > > > to their friends to stir them up against an
innocent enemy, so reality
> > > > > > > > > > > > in turn itself turns against humans, making them
stupid and unable to
> > > > > > > > > > > > understand reality. So they become stuck in a
boring nasty world full
> > > > > > > > > > > > of confusion.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Now, Earth is really the lowest point in the
Universe that is worth
> > > > > > > > > > > > saving. Lower points will not be saved.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > There are beings from higher plants, where the
beings there are
> > > > > > > > > > > > innocent. And their ability to think has ALSO been
harmed by the
> > > > > > > > > > > > humans! That is how powerful spirit is!
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE SPIRIT.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > A single spark of spirit (and a soul contains a
huge number of sparks)
> > > > > > > > > > > > has the ability to create infinite realities.
Spirit is that powerful.
> > > > > > > > > > > > You may look like stupid nasty ugly boring losers
who can't spell a
> > > > > > > > > > > > single sentance right let alone be all powerful,
but you really are
> > > > > > > > > > > > all powerful. The thing is... the spirits being
harmed by you are ALSO
> > > > > > > > > > > > all powerful. So they fight back. And you get
yourself perverted and
> > > > > > > > > > > > trapped by the devil, making you stupid, weak and
nastier...
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > The solution to this predicament... of having
humans, who are kinda
> > > > > > > > > > > > bad but not all that bad, but can really drag
things into hell when
> > > > > > > > > > > > they feel like it and play host to the devil...
the solution was not
> > > > > > > > > > > > easy.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > It required the entire of reality to assist in
helping turn this
> > > > > > > > > > > > insanity that humans have created, around.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Humans have perfected insanity. You want your
insanity to go on
> > > > > > > > > > > > forever. You have perfected creating and insane
false reality, in
> > > > > > > > > > > > which there are no answers.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > And this... is a sin.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Your reality always self-destroys in the end. The
only difference is
> > > > > > > > > > > > if those who are innocent living on other planets,
let you humans get
> > > > > > > > > > > > away with destroying the Universe or destroy you
first and go on
> > > > > > > > > > > > living in paradise without you.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > You can cross to the other side of reality,
humans. But it won't be
> > > > > > > > > > > > easy. It will hurt. Your sadism must be
"extracted" from you, at the
> > > > > > > > > > > > cost of your self-interest. You must kill off your
own sadistic side,
> > > > > > > > > > > > by throwing at it your own self-interests as food.
No longer harming
> > > > > > > > > > > > others. Only yourself. Then you will be innocent.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > The process will seem like it takes forever. I'm
sorry. But it will
> > > > > > > > > > > > seem that way. Perhaps in a sense it does. (Let me
know how it works
> > > > > > > > > > > > after you cross over, OK?)
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > After having crossed over, you will be a lesser,
smaller being, after
> > > > > > > > > > > > having lost a part of your self-interest, but
innocent. You may
> > > > > > > > > > > > protest, but this is better than letting you
destroy US who are
> > > > > > > > > > > > innocent, and anyhow you were about to destroy
each other anyhow, so
> > > > > > > > > > > > what did it matter that now you are less.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > And once you are innocent, we can show you how to
grow.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > ...
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Imagine Joan. Joan is your typical human.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Joan has "some sadism" (a little), a lot of
self-interest, and no true-
> > > > > > > > > > > > care. This is a very useful 3D measure of Joan,
using 3 axis (true-
> > > > > > > > > > > > care/selfinterest/sadism).
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Due to Joan's low nature, she has sadism and
doesn't mind destroying
> > > > > > > > > > > > everyone just for the hell of it. As long as it
doesn't backfire on
> > > > > > > > > > > > her, she'll do it! She has no true-care to stop
her pulling things
> > > > > > > > > > > > down infinitely hard.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > The only thing that stops Joan, is her
self-interest. She lives a
> > > > > > > > > > > > life... finding that being sadistic to others
backfires on her. So...
> > > > > > > > > > > > sometimes, but not always she decides to just get
on with things and
> > > > > > > > > > > > look after herself, care for others because caring
helps her too, and
> > > > > > > > > > > > build a future for herself.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > But othertimes she is being sadistic. Even if she
is only being a
> > > > > > > > > > > > bitch for 3 hours per day, she is still being a
bitch on purpose for 3
> > > > > > > > > > > > hours a day. So that's her sadism. Maybe not evil,
but it is still
> > > > > > > > > > > > "some sadism".
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > And she never goes out of her way to do the right
thing, to help
> > > > > > > > > > > > innocent others for the sake of it. Only to help
innocent others cos
> > > > > > > > > > > > it helps herself too.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > OK, that is Joan.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Well... ?that's also your typical human. Most
humans have a lot of
> > > > > > > > > > > > self-interest, a little sadism, and some
true-care.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > Not necessarily typical human
> > > > > > > > > > > Why are you posting this on sci logic? Are you
spamming us?
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Since when did spam consist of two posts with
different, and original
> > > > > > > > > > content?
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Seems like the very OPPOSITE of spam.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Are you being evil? Sounds like it.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > I post on sci.logic because logic is needed to
understand reality. My
> > > > > > > > > > message... it is logical. A logic-processor, a logic
AI could
> > > > > > > > > > understand the engines of creation of reality, and
help to create a
> > > > > > > > > > new one, a better one!- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -
> >
> > > > > > > > > Not evey one has the same thaught process or perception
of what is
> > > > > > > > > LOGICAL
> >
> > > > > > > > You can't spell, but you are a danger.
> >
> > > > > > > > You are insane, you see.
> >
> > > > > > > > Just because others don't have the same understanding of
what is
> > > > > > > > logical... does not mean that what is logical is
different. Perception
> > > > > > > > is not logic. Logic is higher than perception.
> >
> > > > > > > > > Now universal LORE is not even LOGICAL thats What
NATURAL PHINOMINON
> >
> > > > > > > > lol. That's the stupidest spelling I've seen.
> >
> > > > > > > > > Shit they say the natural order is Chaios But the earth
and the
> > > > > > > > > universe is so precicly balanced all bodies MAGNETS
spinning in a
> > > > > > > > > Vacume
> >
> > > > > > > > Because of logic.
> >
> > > > > > > > > Snap out of it Nothing lives for ever
> >
> > > > > > > > Tell me that when your statement you made, is about to
destroy your
> > > > > > > > soul and you are begging reality for more time to live
in.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -
> >
> > > > > > > Dislexic but have a great understanding of logic
> > > > > > > you see geniticly I have procreated and nourished those
decendants and
> > > > > > > I have also acheaved and Spiritually I have caused no harm
and well if
> > > > > > > the spirit is able to contact and encourage my decendants to
survive
> > > > > > > far into the future I will pass to the DOWIE quite happly so
Nothing
> > > > > > > in this dimension lives for ever its all obout recycling
Just call me
> > > > > > > the mad hatter DO you want me to post you my certification
> > > > > > > all in the GIENES YOU know? D.N.A =DO NOT ALTER
> >
> > > > > > There will be no descendants to reincarnate into...
> >
> > > > > > Because your world is destroying itself.
> >
> > > > > > And your world is destroying itself because of your
negativity.
> > > > > > Because of the false reality you've created. Growing old is
> > > > > > unnecessary. If you want to die when you reach 100 or 200 or
300
> > > > > > because you are bored, and feel like it's time to reincarnate,
then
> > > > > > fine, do that. But it's still possible to be 400 and look like
you did
> > > > > > when you were 18.
> >
> > > > > > At least in the future reality, this will be possible. Not in
this
> > > > > > false reality full of lies, though.
> >
> > > > > mate you just cant live for ever especially if you do not have
> > > > > compatible gene sequences to anchor you in this harmonic
frequency we
> > > > > exist in .to remember you and allow you to reincarnate for your
> > > > > dominant genes to manifest in your descendants.
> >
> > > > I can do anything.
> >
> > > > Anything innocent anyhow.
> >
> > > > I told you. This reality's time is up. And secondly... who said I
want
> > > > to "live forever". I just want to live fully young, with no
artificial
> > > > limit to freedom (meaning I can be young but something stops me
being
> > > > powerful or wise or inventive) as long as I feel like. Whether
that's
> > > > a few centuries or millenia...
> > > and you have only just realised this ?
> >
> > My god you are fucking stupid. You are such a retard. Nothing you say
> > even adds up.
> >
> > "only just realised this".
> >
> > Firstly, where did I say I Just realised it?
> >
> > Secondly, I was disproving you. I suppose you are too stupid to see
> > how it disproves your assumption that I was saying I wanted to "live
> > forever in this physical body", something I never said.
> >
> > So, instead of saying what you should have said, which is "sorry, I
> > misinterpreted your statement to be wrong"...
> >
> > NO, you don't apologise for twisting my words.
> >
> > No, instead of you make another insult, and twist my words AGAIN.
> >
> > You, are a lying fucking asshole.
>
> so what you say is what you are Poor bulla you
> didnt twist your words if you dont have any decendants you probaly can
> only choose to be a veg or fruit but are you trying to rlate logic and
> perception to a myth
This is off-topic for sci.logic.
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