On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 14:55:36 -0400, Bob LeChevalier
<lojbab@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>Ceqli <rmay@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>Given all this, how do you say s****ts in Lojban, as in "news, s****ts,
>>and weather"?
>
>That will depend on what you mean by it - the context is insufficient
>to identify the intended meaning.
I take it you don't listen to AM radio. The context is the top of the
hour moment when the radio station jingle announces "WXYZ, 1551AM,
with your news, s****ts and weather at the top of the hour!"
>If you are sufficiently specific in your meaning, Lojban will have a
>number of possible words that would cover whatever concept. Using
>metaphor translation, we might have compete-play or play-competition
>or skill-competition, muscle play or muscle-rule-play
How would an all-Lojban radio station announce its "news, s****ts and
weather" at the top of the hour?
>>I'm not at all sure that cultural neutrality is an attainable goal,
>>even approximately. Are there natlangs that have no word for 's****ts'
>>in the English sense?
>
>I suspect that most of them do not.
Possibly not. S****ts as we know them in the modern world are
definitely a luxury and a lesiuretime activity. This is not to say
that other cultures don't have rigorous, team oriented, s****tlike
activities. They might be religious in nature or cultural contests.
>They will have one or more words
>that translates "s****ts", but they will NOT have the exact same
>meaning.
Not until they im****t or otherwise develop the concept.
>This is just like my oft-cited example of how the Russian
>word for arm includes the hand, and there is no distinct word for
>"hand" - you have fingers on the end of your arm. So when a Russian
>translates the English word "hand" the word used actually means "arm"
Kind of like "limb", though that works for the leg/foot combination as
well.
>>If there are, how do they handle the concept?
>
>They will obviously try to use a word which is sufficient to cover the
>specific s****ts being talked about.
Padraic
>
>lojbab
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