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Re: Lojban

by stevo <MorphemeAddict@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sep 7, 2007 at 05:22 AM

On Aug 30, 10:18 pm, Dana Nutter \ deinx nxtxr
<li_sasxsekREMOVET...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> li [Bob LeChevalier] mi tulis la ...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Ceqli <r...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > >Indeed!  Thanks.  I currently have about that many morphemes in
Ceqli,
> > >and feel like I need many, many more.  I presume that a lot of my
> > >morphemes so far are compounds in Lojban. Is the count about the same
> > >for guaspi and Loglan?
>
> > I cannot answer any questions about guaspi.
>
> > TLI Loglan is tricky, because JCB added a variety of borrowings in
> > prim-space, and others proposed ones that JCB neither adopted nor
> > rejected, but did allow to be published in The Loglanist (we can
> > assume them effectively rejected since few in the community know about
> > them - one has to read 25 year old TL issues to find them).
>
> > He also has some prims with "declensions" - his culture words change
> > in meaning depending on the final letter, and so one ahs to decide
> > whether they are one morpheme per culture (with three common suffixes
> > each) or three morphemes each culture.
>
> > However one decides this, I suspect that his count ends up about the
> > same as ours, or possibly somewhat smaller.  We also have more "little
> > words".  But TLI Loglan is never baselined, so there could be more
> > added (or subtracted) any time the powers that be choose to do so.
>
> > lojbab
>
> Rex,
>
>         I know i've mentioned this before, but try downloading
> Lojban's gismu list from their site.  They are the best source
> of semantic primes that I've found so far.  

> deinx nxtxr

The Lojban gismu list is a good starting point, but as a source of
semantic primes it leaves a lot to be desired.  There are many gaps
and overlaps in the gismu list.  Lujvo and fu'ivla are used to
overcome this shortcoming.
For real semantic primes, see Anna Wierzbicka's Natural Semantic
Metalanguage, which has about 62 'words'.

stevo
 




 42 Posts in Topic:
Lojban
Ceqli <rmay@[EMAIL PRO  2007-08-16 06:12:33 
Re: Lojban
Bob LeChevalier <lojba  2007-08-16 11:51:34 
Re: Lojban
Ceqli <rmay@[EMAIL PRO  2007-08-16 11:06:26 
Re: Lojban
Bob LeChevalier <lojba  2007-08-17 01:27:36 
Re: Lojban
Dana Nutter \ deinx nxtxr  2007-08-30 23:18:37 
Re: Lojban
Anonymous <anyone@[EMA  2007-09-03 01:57:18 
Re: Lojban
Dana Nutter \ deinx nxtxr  2007-09-03 11:05:35 
Re: Lojban
Bob LeChevalier <lojba  2007-09-03 11:59:49 
Re: Lojban
Padraic Brown <elemtil  2007-09-03 15:11:24 
Re: Lojban
g10sha <g10sha@[EMAIL   2007-09-03 23:47:59 
Re: Lojban
Dana Nutter \ deinx nxtxr  2007-09-04 12:32:00 
Re: Lojban
Ceqli <rmay@[EMAIL PRO  2007-09-05 16:24:57 
Re: Lojban
Bob LeChevalier <lojba  2007-09-06 14:55:36 
Re: Lojban
Padraic Brown <elemtil  2007-09-06 22:31:36 
Re: Lojban
Bob LeChevalier <lojba  2007-09-07 00:27:47 
Re: Lojban
Dana Nutter \ deinx nxtxr  2007-09-07 13:31:28 
Re: Lojban
Bob LeChevalier <lojba  2007-09-08 02:10:40 
Re: Lojban
Padraic Brown <elemtil  2007-09-08 09:38:04 
Re: Lojban
Padraic Brown <elemtil  2007-09-07 15:40:04 
Re: Lojban
Bob LeChevalier <lojba  2007-09-08 02:16:00 
Re: Lojban
Dana Nutter \ deinx nxtxr  2007-09-08 12:37:09 
Re: Lojban
Bob LeChevalier <lojba  2007-09-08 21:16:51 
Re: Lojban
Padraic Brown <elemtil  2007-09-08 23:22:30 
Re: Lojban
Bob LeChevalier <lojba  2007-09-09 14:43:47 
Re: Lojban
Padraic Brown <elemtil  2007-09-09 19:22:55 
Re: Lojban
Dana Nutter \ deinx nxtxr  2007-09-10 00:27:49 
Re: Lojban
Bob LeChevalier <lojba  2007-09-10 01:07:39 
Re: Lojban
Padraic Brown <elemtil  2007-09-11 02:08:54 
Re: Lojban
Bob LeChevalier <lojba  2007-09-10 01:43:20 
Re: Lojban
Padraic Brown <elemtil  2007-09-11 02:08:54 
Re: Lojban
Bob LeChevalier <lojba  2007-09-11 16:32:26 
Re: Lojban
Anonymous <anyone@[EMA  2007-09-11 17:19:45 
Re: Lojban
dwolffxx@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-09-11 23:47:01 
Re: Lojban
Bob LeChevalier <lojba  2007-09-12 00:25:06 
Re: Lojban
Padraic Brown <elemtil  2007-09-08 23:22:29 
Re: Lojban
Dana Nutter \ deinx nxtxr  2007-09-08 12:30:24 
Re: Lojban
Padraic Brown <elemtil  2007-09-08 23:22:30 
Re: Lojban
stevo <MorphemeAddict@  2007-09-07 05:22:08 
Re: Lojban
Dana Nutter \ deinx nxtxr  2007-09-07 13:42:41 
Re: Lojban
stevo <MorphemeAddict@  2007-09-08 05:41:23 
Re: Lojban
Dana Nutter \ deinx nxtxr  2007-09-08 12:23:16 
Re: Lojban
Paul Bartlett <bartlet  2007-09-08 20:04:32 

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