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> On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 22:12:23 -0500, Dana Nutter \ deinx nxtxr
> <li_sasxsekREMOVETHIS@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> >Speaking of a priori, philosophical languages. I've got one
> >that's also part loglang with an oligosynthetic vocabulary. I
> >have a good idea how I want everything structured, but I'm stuck
> >on labeling the morphemes. At some point recently I've got the
> >idea to create a basic vocabulary based upon known phonosemantic
> >universals, or at least strong phonosemantic tendencies across
> >languages. The lack of available information on the subject has
> >me stuck right now. So far there are about 5 morph/lex-emes
> >that are pretty firmly in place like "ma" (mother) and "pa"
> >(father). I've also added "mai" (this) and "tau" (that) based
> >upon a some of the information I have been able to find.
>
> May or may not be exactly what you're looking for, but you might look
> into Wadler's "The Origin of Language". His thesis seems to be that
> all languages are descended from one language and that the traces of
> this language are still evident in the daughter languages. Whatever
> the truth of the matter, he does give lots of interesting lists of
> "tendencies" across a bizarre range of languages.
>
> For example: GOD: Teotl (Mex); Ti (China); Teot (Nicar.); Tiw (A.S.);
> De (Annam); Theos (Gr.); Tei (Japan).
>
> GRAIN: Afaro (Guanche); Bar (Slav.); Far (Lat.); Bar (Heb.); Barley
> (Engl); ****i (Kor.)
>
> Even if it's not precisely what you're after, it's an interesting
> read!
Sounds like it would be interesting. If there are any true
universals, I'd guess they would have roots in some type of
human ursprache.
I have since found some more information, but it too is still
lacking some of the finer details I'd like to see.
Unfortunately it appears that this is one area that just hasn't
been explored much. There are some interesting things like
front vowels meaning "near" or "small", and back vowels meaning
"far" or "big". Consonants seem to follow a similar model. [b]
for "round", "bump", etc. [n] for "black", "dark", "no",
"nothing". Sounds like [pu] or [fu] usually meaning something
negative (like English "phooey").
I've been using what I've found so far to create a chart with
some basic concepts that's I'm using for the current working
vocabulary while I do some more homework. This approach is only
for the most basic vocabulary. For more complicated terms which
will require a unique root, I'll probably use a label taken
loosely from a natural language, or maybe a composite like those
in Lojban.
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