Re: Skull find reveals ancient brain surgery nearly 1,800 years ago

On Mar 14, 2:07=A0pm, Sigge <Riace.Warr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Mar 14, 5:33 am, JTEM <jte...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > =A0VtSkier <VtSk...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > When I was in high school, 50 years ago, I was fascinated
> > > by an archeology book which showed many skulls which had
> > > had this operation and the patient had lived many years
> > > after the operation, 12,000 years ago.
>
> > It's fascinating to see "Agamemnon" getting excited about
> > evidence suggesting that the Greeks were so far behind
> > everybody else...
>
> JTEM, you are just a pathetic compulsive liar! Your ancestors were
> laughed at by the Glorious Greeks when they were trying to reverse
> their circumcision and make some Gymnastics in Jerusalem!
> I elevate you to human level by remind you that no one reads or write
> anything about Maimonides, not even your Rabbits!
> Plato is a different thing altogether!
> Should one of your kind become doctor he takes the Hippocratic oath
> (not some mumbo-jumbo of your ancestors).
>
> The first that cured a hydrocephalus jtem by brain surgery was a GREEK
> Physician.
>
> Read something requiring brain work not the stuff that any fanatic can
> put in the internet!
>
> E.G. "Galen on the Seat of the Intellect: Anatomical Experiments and
> Philosophical Tradition"
> by Teun Tieleman, published in Science and Mathematics in Ancient
> Greek Culture, edited by C.J.Tulpin and T.E.Rihll. pp 256-273.
>
> It starts with the phrase
> "Galen's vivisection experiments concerned with the nervous system may
> rank among the most sophisticated known from ancient sources. Galen
> appears to inaugurate a new era by systematically working his way
> along the spinal chord and nerves, making incisions and carefully
> recording the resultant phenomena of paralysis. ..."
>
> For your knowledge the vivisections were performed on pigs of the
> IEREMIAS type.
>
> It goes on with some pages of heavy discussion about the Seat of the
> intellect among the various schools, Medicinal and Philosophical. And
> it finishes with
>
> "Looking forward in time, we get an impression of Galen's achievement
> when we note that no proper =A0theory of experimentation took shape
> before the 17th century. Renaissance Scientists such as Zabarella
> (1533-89) or the young Galileo(1564-1642) still engaged in
> experimentation without a full-blown experimental method. In this
> respect their work did not appreciably advance beyond the situation we
> have encountered in Galen's "On the Doctrines of Hippocrates and
> Plato". This too is a measure of his achievement."
>
> Do you read that, asshole?
> Your fanatics, incompetent Arabs and Jews are presented by the
> wretched propagandists of your type as good physicians! Ha, ha, ha!
> They achieved NOTHING! From Galen to 17th century!
> One and a half millenium lost for humanity because of the Judaeo-
> Christian-Muslim monotheistic mumbo-jumbo and the incompetent Arabs
> and Jews!
>
While you may continuously refer to the Western intellectual
heritage, it is a non sequitur to assume that your philosophical
musings are in any way a logical continuation or development
of it.  By analogy, the Third Reich did not enhance its legitimacy
by expropriating the music of Beethoven et al. and promoting it
as if it were somehow a comcomitant of that regime's monstrous
agenda.

When I read your posts I picture The Cryptkeeper (from an
American cable television series), in fa****onable Waffen-SS
regalia and olive wreath, gleefully reciting his screed of racial
hatred, while an international coterie (alle og enhver) of
psilocybin-addled adherents silently (and not so silently) nods
its assent.  And then I think of The various politico-religious
movements of intolerance currently on the ascendancy
throughout the world, and I wonder, "Is this what humanity
as come to; is this the best that it can do?"

Christopher Ingham