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Re: Skull find reveals ancient brain surgery nearly 1,800 years ago

by Sigge <Riace.Warrior@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 14, 2008 at 01:56 PM

On Mar 14, 7:17 pm, Christopher Ingham <christophering...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
> On Mar 14, 2:07 pm, Sigge <Riace.Warr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 14, 5:33 am, JTEM <jte...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > >  VtSkier <VtSk...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > > When I was in high school, 50 years ago, I was fascinated
> > > > by an archeology book which showed many skulls which had
> > > > had this operation and the patient had lived many years
> > > > after the operation, 12,000 years ago.
>
> > > It's fascinating to see "Agamemnon" getting excited about
> > > evidence suggesting that the Greeks were so far behind
> > > everybody else...
>
> > JTEM, you are just a pathetic compulsive liar! Your ancestors were
> > laughed at by the Glorious Greeks when they were trying to reverse
> > their cir***cision and make some Gymnastics in Jerusalem!
> > I elevate you to human level by remind you that no one reads or write
> > anything about Maimonides, not even your Rabbits!
> > Plato is a different thing altogether!
> > Should one of your kind become doctor he takes the Hippocratic oath
> > (not some mumbo-jumbo of your ancestors).
>
> > The first that cured a hydrocephalus jtem by brain surgery was a GREEK
> > Physician.
>
> > Read something requiring brain work not the stuff that any fanatic can
> > put in the internet!
>
> > E.G. "Galen on the Seat of the Intellect: Anatomical Experiments and
> > Philosophical Tradition"
> > by Teun Tieleman, published in Science and Mathematics in Ancient
> > Greek Culture, edited by C.J.Tulpin and T.E.Rihll. pp 256-273.
>
> > It starts with the phrase
> > "Galen's vivisection experiments concerned with the nervous system may
> > rank among the most sophisticated known from ancient sources. Galen
> > appears to inaugurate a new era by systematically working his way
> > along the spinal chord and nerves, making incisions and carefully
> > recording the resultant phenomena of paralysis. ..."
>
> > For your knowledge the vivisections were performed on pigs of the
> > IEREMIAS type.
>
> > It goes on with some pages of heavy discussion about the Seat of the
> > intellect among the various schools, Medicinal and Philosophical. And
> > it finishes with
>
> > "Looking forward in time, we get an impression of Galen's achievement
> > when we note that no proper  theory of experimentation took shape
> > before the 17th century. Renaissance Scientists such as Zabarella
> > (1533-89) or the young Galileo(1564-1642) still engaged in
> > experimentation without a full-blown experimental method. In this
> > respect their work did not appreciably advance beyond the situation we
> > have encountered in Galen's "On the Doctrines of Hippocrates and
> > Plato". This too is a measure of his achievement."
>
> > Do you read that, asshole?
> > Your fanatics, incompetent Arabs and Jews are presented by the
> > wretched propagandists of your type as good physicians! Ha, ha, ha!
> > They achieved NOTHING! From Galen to 17th century!
> > One and a half millenium lost for humanity because of the Judaeo-
> > Christian-Muslim monotheistic mumbo-jumbo and the incompetent Arabs
> > and Jews!
>
> While you may continuously refer to the Western intellectual
> heritage, it is a non sequitur to assume that your philosophical
> musings are in any way a logical continuation or development
> of it.  By analogy, the Third Reich did not enhance its legitimacy
> by expropriating the music of Beethoven et al. and promoting it
> as if it were somehow a comcomitant of that regime's monstrous
> agenda.
>
> When I read your posts I picture The Cryptkeeper (from an
> American cable television series), in fa****onable Waffen-SS
> regalia and olive wreath, gleefully reciting his screed of racial
> hatred, while an international coterie (alle og enhver) of
> psilocybin-addled adherents silently (and not so silently) nods
> its assent.  And then I think of The various politico-religious
> movements of intolerance currently on the ascendancy
> throughout the world, and I wonder, "Is this what humanity
> as come to; is this the best that it can do?"
>
> Christopher Ingham

Mr Christopher Ingham!
Your thoughts have nothing to do with Aristotelian Logic!
Already your wording discloses an uneducated pseudointellectual! You
use terms the meaning  of which eludes you. E.G.
non sequitur = a****oulouthia (in Greek transliterated)=(it does not
follow, it cannot be concluded)

Your phrase
" it is a non sequitur to assume"  (it does not follow to assume) is
meaningless! Assume preceeds, sequitur follows.
Absurd as the rest of your input!
And your fantasies! The lengthy description taken from sources that
are totally foreign to me, says quite a lot about you not about me.

If you want to use terms, then you must learn their exact meaning.
We Mathematicians define words and use them only with their precise
meaning. A large part of the Greek effort was spent on language. First
they invent vowels and consonants. Then they discuss grammar, syntax,
etymology and semantics. ! Non-Western elements like you simply throw
up words that seem beautiful or deep to you!
Of course quite a large part of the education in the Humanities and
Social Sciences nowadays is spent not on critical thinking and clear
formulation of ideas!
No! It is spent on smart use of language. Ideas should  remain hazy.
They should be seemingly deep, but essentially empty. Words, words,
words!

To the content as you meant it.
It is your sick mind that reads Third Reich from my writings.
The main thread in my writings is that the Glorious (it irritates the
lousy propagandists of your kind) Greeks gave us, the best. Democracy,
Science, and Art. You reacted negatively to those words! You are one
of those irritated by the Glory of the Greeks! Admit it! Are you
oriental? Religious?

Listen carefully Mr Christopher Ingham!
1) Greeks gave us Democracy and the idea of FREEDOM!
We (the good innocent people) are currently at risk of turning
Democracy to Dictator****p due to the vicious propagandists!
US of America once the hope of the World, elects Bush for a SECOND
term!
Politicians all over the West are openly bought for money or *** and
do not address peoples fears and anxiety.
The monotheistic fanaticism produces Samsons and Atas.
The Religions of Nazism, Communism, Fascism, and Judeo-Christian-
Muslim monotheism has already cost humanity hundreds of millions of
dead, billions of wasted lives and because intellectual midgets like
you did not appreciate FREEDOM like the Greeks did in Salamis against
Asiatic Persians and the same day on Sicily against Semitic
Carthaginians that would put an end to Europe before it started being
Europe.

2) Greeks gave us Critical Thinking, Proof, Experiments, Gedanken
Experiments, in other words Science!
Don't you see that Science is under atack? Have you ever heard of the
Sokal hoax?
History has been replaced by stories and myths. Intellectual
impostors, like Lacan, Kristova, Irigaray and other postmodernistic
idiots are hailed by the propagandists.
Don't you see that Universities will soon have Departments for
Alchemy, Ethnomathematics, Afrocentrism.  We have already accepted
Theology as part of Philosophy and Psychoanalysis as part of
Psychiatry. How many million victims of Freudianism? Do you know the
story of Bruno Betelheim and autism? Read R. Pollak's "The creation of
Dr. B" or E. Dolnick "Madness on the Couch".
Or, if your IQ is normal (which I doubt) read Frank Cioffi, Frederick
Crews, etc.

3) Greeks gave us superb Art (among others the Riace Bronzes)
Don't you see that you a manipulated pseudointellectual accepted
Duchamp's pissoir for ART, because  some art crit told you it is art?

To the point now!
Why don't you react with JTEMS anti-Western stupidities and lies?
Why do you react negatively when I defend West?


Sigge
 




 22 Posts in Topic:
Skull find reveals ancient brain surgery nearly 1,800 years ago
"Agamemnon" <  2008-03-14 00:27:49 
Re: Skull find reveals ancient brain surgery nearly 1,800 years
VtSkier <VtSkier@[EMAI  2008-03-13 20:52:09 
Re: Skull find reveals ancient brain surgery nearly 1,800 years
JTEM <jtem01@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-13 21:33:29 
Re: Skull find reveals ancient brain surgery nearly 1,800 years
Sigge <Riace.Warrior@[  2008-03-14 11:07:39 
Re: Skull find reveals ancient brain surgery nearly 1,800 years
Matt Giwer <jull43@[EM  2008-03-15 20:24:09 
Re: Skull find reveals ancient brain surgery nearly 1,800 years
Christopher Ingham <ch  2008-03-14 11:17:56 
Re: Skull find reveals ancient brain surgery nearly 1,800 years
Matt Giwer <jull43@[EM  2008-03-15 20:32:01 
Re: Skull find reveals ancient brain surgery nearly 1,800 years
Sigge <Riace.Warrior@[  2008-03-14 13:56:30 
Re: Skull find reveals ancient brain surgery nearly 1,800 years
Doug Weller <dweller@[  2008-03-17 15:37:54 
Re: Skull find reveals ancient brain surgery nearly 1,800 years
Matt Giwer <jull43@[EM  2008-03-15 20:06:46 
Re: Skull find reveals ancient brain surgery nearly 1,800 years
jerry warner <"wa  2008-03-15 23:23:01 
Re: Skull find reveals ancient brain surgery nearly 1,800 years
Matt Giwer <jull43@[EM  2008-03-16 20:08:24 
Re: Skull find reveals ancient brain surgery nearly 1,800 years
jerry warner <"wa  2008-03-17 01:01:57 
Re: Skull find reveals ancient brain surgery nearly 1,800 years
Matt Giwer <jull43@[EM  2008-03-18 20:08:22 
Re: Skull find reveals ancient brain surgery nearly 1,800 years
JTEM <jtem01@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-16 23:30:04 
Re: Skull find reveals ancient brain surgery nearly 1,800 years
Sigge <Riace.Warrior@[  2008-03-17 13:13:58 
Re: Skull find reveals ancient brain surgery nearly 1,800 years
Doug Weller <dweller@[  2008-03-20 19:38:17 
Re: Skull find reveals ancient brain surgery nearly 1,800 years
jerry warner <"wa  2008-03-17 23:05:41 
Re: Skull find reveals ancient brain surgery nearly 1,800 years
JTEM <jtem01@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-17 22:28:32 
Re: Skull find reveals ancient brain surgery nearly 1,800 years
JTEM <jtem01@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-19 05:02:18 
Re: Skull find reveals ancient brain surgery nearly 1,800 years
Matt Giwer <jull43@[EM  2008-03-20 21:33:57 
Re: Skull find reveals ancient brain surgery nearly 1,800 years
Christopher Ingham <ch  2008-03-20 13:16:05 

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