"Immortalist" <reanimater_2000@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Mar 6, 5:00 pm, presidentbyamendment <rick_hohen...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Mar 6, 4:56 pm, Don Stockbauer <donstockba...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On Mar 6, 3:41 pm, Immortalist <reanimater_2...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > ...there are some who are naturally fitted for philosophy and
> > > political leader****p, while the rest should follow their lead and
let
> > > philosophy alone...
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> > > 'Suppose the following to be the state of affairs on board a ****p or
> > > ****ps. The captain is larger and stronger than any of the crew, but
a
> > > bit deaf and short-sighted, and doesn't know much about navigation.
> > > The crew are quarrelling with each other about how to navigate the
> > > ****p, each thinking he ought to be at the helm; they know no
> > > navigation and cannot say that anyone ever taught it them, or that
> > > they spent any time studying it; indeed they say it can't be taught
> > > and are ready to murder any one who says it can. They spend all
their
> > > time milling around the captain and trying to get him to give them
the
> > > wheel. If one faction is more successful then another, their rivals
> > > may kill them and throw them overboard, lay out the honest captain
> > > with drugs and drink, take control of the ****p, help themselves to
> > > what's on board, and behave as if they were on a drunken pleasure-
> > > cruise. Finally, they reserve their admiration for the man who knows
> > > how to lend a hand in controlling the captain by force or fraud;
they
> > > praise his seaman****p and navigation and knowledge of the sea and
> > > condemn everyone else as useless. They have no idea that the true
> > > navigator must study the seasons of the year, the sky, the stars,
the
> > > winds and other professional subjects, if he is really fit to
control
> > > a ****p; and they think that it's quite impossible to acquire
> > > professional skill in navigation (quite apart from whether they want
> > > it exercised) and that there is no such thing as an art of
navigation.
> > > In these cir***stances aren't the sailors on any ****p bound to
regard
> > > the true navigator as a gossip and a star-gazer, of no use to them
at
> > > all?'
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>http://www.spaceandmotion.com/Philosophy-Plato-Philosopher.htmhttp://...
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> > Ackshoeally, he just hadn't heard of the Global Brain.- Hide quoted
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> Because Plato was a kook. Stick to Lucretius and Aristotle.
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Can you explain how he was a kook? Personally I like Aristotle's mixed
regime but Plato did raise alot of issues that others then paid
attention to and refined.
In Book 3, [of Politics] Chapters 6-7, Aristotle establishes a famous
classification of six types of rule divided on the one hand between
those that are 'good' and those that are 'corrupt', and on the other,
between the different number of rulers that make up the decision-
making authority, namely, the one, the few, and the many. The good
types include monarchy, aristocracy and polity, while the corrupt
types include tyranny, oligarchy and democracy or 'mob rule'. Good
government rules in the common interest while corrupt government rules
in the interest of those who rule.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristotle
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/aristotle-politics/
Aristotle was just illustratiing the predictability of the "multi headed
monster".
He was not advocation it.
BOfL
> Rick Hohensee-
http://youtube.com/watch?v=MfbQSi6_8RY
http://youtube.com/watch?v=llH13hboNYA
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