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, tell us then why Nazi SS members admitted the gassing of
inmates. >>>
They saw the delousing chambers.
The US army made a famous film about the Dachau "gas chamber", which is
still used to this very day as holocaust propaganda, although most
scholars
and historians accept
that there were NO homicidal gas chambers in any concentration camp in
Germany.
The Dachau Concentration Camp Memorial Site states:
"The prisoner numbers at the Dachau concentration camp rose drastically,
and
from December 1944 catastrophic conditions reigned in the camp: the
barracks
were hopelessly overcrowded and a typhus epidemic took the lives of
thousands."
Watch a clip from the US propaganda film about gas chambers at Dachau:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VH6i2pqGWo&feature=related
In this clip David explains how -- given that victors of any war write
history with no regard for truth or justice -- the false propaganda of the
Allies continues to this day. The commentary includes part of an Allied
film
claiming homicidal gassings occured at the Dachau concentration camp, and
little-known admissions by a British soldier that the last commandant of
Auschwitz, Rudolf Hoess, was tortured to extract a confession.
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Although several early reports by members of the US Army confirmed that
there was a workable gas chamber at Dachau, a report by Sgt. Joseph H.
Gilbert to Major James F. Munn, Headquarters Third United States Army,
Enemy
Equipment Intelligence Service Team Number 1, Chemical Warfare Service, 22
August 1945, stated the following:
"Based on the interviews noted above, and further, based on actual
inspection of the Dachau gas chamber (it has apparently been unused), it
is
the opinion of the undersigned that the gas chamber was a failure for
execution purposes and that no experimental work ever took place in it. In
view of the fact that much reliable information has been furnished the
Allies by former inmates regarding the malaria, air pressure and cold
water
experiments, it is reasonable to assume that if such gas experiments took
place, similar information would be available."
Marcus J. Smith wrote in his book "The Harrowing of Hell" that there was
disagreement among the Dachau survivors regarding the gas chamber. The
following quote is from his book:
There are conflicting stories as to the use of the gas chamber. An
Albanian
tells me that it was used only four times since 1942, but a Pole says that
it was never used during that time. Another Pole reports that 100 or 150
people were put to death each day in the chamber. A Yugoslav says that
thousands were gassed in the last three years. A Frenchman believes that
the
chamber has never been used.
http://www.scrapbookpages.com/DachauScrapbook/GasChamber/interior00.html
Dachau Concentration Camp Memorial Site
http://www.kz-gedenkstaette-dachau.de/englisch/frame/geschichte.htm
With the victorious advance of the Allied troops, the SS evacuated more
and
more concentration camps, transporting the prisoners to camps located in
areas still under Nazi control. On these transports, which often lasted
weeks, thousands of prisoners died; they died of disease, exhaustion,
malnutrition, beatings inflicted by the SS or, if it was no longer
possible
to transport them, they were simply shot.
The prisoner numbers at the Dachau concentration camp rose drastically,
and
from December 1944 catastrophic conditions reigned in the camp: the
barracks
were hopelessly overcrowded and a typhus epidemic took the lives of
thousands.
Besides the 30,000 recorded dead, thousands of prisoners who were not
registered lost their life at the Dachau concentration camp.
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The Gas Chamber at Dachau: Now You See It, Now You Don't
By Carlos W. Porter
http://www.cwporter.com/dachgas.htm
We are all familiar with an instrument called the kaleidoscope, in which
loose bits of glass are reflected by plane mirrors showing each bit of
glass
in 6 places at once, creating the illusion of a symmetrical design.
A similar phenomenon occurs in "War Crimes Trials," in which gas chambers
are shown in 3 different places at once, and anywhere from 1 to 6 in
number,
creating the illusion of a Common Design (sometimes referred to as a
Common
Plan) for the extermination of human beings.
An example of this illusion is the Gas Chamber at Dachau, which appeared
in
April of 1945, disappeared from Dachau by November of that year, only to
reappear at Nuremberg in December, after which it disappeared from
Nuremberg
and only entered the scene again as "proven fact" in the trial of Oswald
Pohl in 1947 (along with the steam chambers of Treblinka).
The following is, I believe, a complete list of pretrial exhibits
mentioning
this "gas chamber", which was to be "proven" in the First Dachau Trial
(trial of Martin Gottfried Weiss). The gas chamber accusation was dropped
before trial. It is apparent that the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers knew
before November 15, 1945, that no gas chamber could function in the manner
described, and that other stories of gas chambers functioning in a similar
manner were not true. Yet a decision was made to continue this accusation
in
other trials for political reasons.
(Microfilm pages 00005052):
"Report of the Atrocities Committed at Dachau Concentration Camp. Vol. 1.
War Crimes Investigation Team No. 6823. Signed by David Chavez Jr.
Colonel,
JAGD, 7 May 1945."
(Microfilm pages 0000713):
"Exhibit F photograph of gas panel.
"S3 photograph of gas chamber
"V2 plan of water and gas installations
"V10 shower nozzle removed from gas chamber
"V11 label removed from cans (Zyklon) found in or near gas chamber"
Page 25 of "Chavez Report", 00089 of microfilm pages: "The new building
had
a gas chamber for executions... the gas chamber was labelled "shower room"
over the entrance and was a large room with airtight doors and double
glassed lights, sealed and gas proof. The ceiling was studded with dummy
shower heads. A small observation peephole, double glassed and
hermetically
sealed was used to observe the conditions of the victims. There were
grates
in the floor. Hydrogen cyanide was mixed in the room below, and rose into
the gas chamber and out the top vents. (Exhibit 34)
"Dr. Blaha witnessed the first test of the gas chamber in the new
crematorium in early 1944, and examined the 7 victims used. Two were
killed
in the first test, an experiment to determine the amount of gas needed to
kill a person (Exhibit 5).
"Weight of general testimony shows that the gas chamber was developed
successfully to get the desired results. Witness after witness mentions
seeing living persons herded into the crematorium and never being seen
again. When the chamber was not used it was because of the shortage of the
materials to make the gas, the same reason for not using the crematorium
continually, and certainly no change of heart on the part of the SS in
charge. No witness can testify as an eye witness to an execution by gas
except Dr. Blaha, because the crematorium and gas chamber was made up of
condemned prisoners who lived in the crematorium yard and once in there,
never left the area alive. Men picked for such duty knew that they were to
be killed as persons too dangerous to the SS as possible future
witnesses".
(Col. Chavez testified at trial on November 15, 1945, and made no mention
of
any gas chamber. There is no mention of any gas chamber in the testimony
of
Col. Lawrence Ball, another government expert witness. There is no mention
of any gas chamber in the prosecution opening statement, summation, or
judgement. No mention in the defence summations. No mention in the
testimony, except for a few sentences in the testimony of Dr. Blaha. Not
one
of the forty defendants was asked a single question concerning any gas
chamber. Dr. Blaha testified twice. In his second appearance as witness
during prosecution "rebuttal", he also makes no mention of any gas
chamber.
The Chavez report was rewritten and introduced into evidence at Nuremberg
as
"proven fact", even though it was known to be untrue. (Documents 159L,
2430PS).
The existence of a gas chamber at Dachau was not upheld in the judgement
at
Nuremberg. Page 56 of this same report, the "Chavez Report" (000120 of
microfilm pages, reel 1, M1174, Trial of Martin Gottfried Weiss et al.,
National Archives):
"This new building also contained a gas chamber for execution... the gas
chamber was labelled "shower room". The first test of a gas chamber was in
1944, when prisoners were used to determine the amount of gas required to
kill a person".
000132: "(Diagrams) drawing of piping section above chamber, ventilator,
galvanized piping, open into gas chamber. Insulated piping. Gas chamber...
gas chamber. Dachau prison camp.'
000133: "Grill covered inlets. Hinged door. Water [?] drains. Gas chamber.
Dachau prison camp".
000134: "Vents. Ceiling. Gas Chamber. Dachau prison camp. Shower heads
flush
with ceiling".
000135: (Diagram) Gas Chamber. Gas tight doors. Wooden shed believed to
contain pump or compressor [?]. Piping system above chamber ceiling,
dimensions of chamber 24' x 18' x 6'. Chamber constructed of smooth,
paleyellow brick like refractory brick, with small cement joints.
Elevation.
Gas chamber. Dachau prison camp".
PreTrial Witness Interrogations and Other Exhibits.
000199: "In February 1945, 65 Jewish children... arrived in the camp..;
the
children started crying and said: Please don't put us into the gas
chamber.
When we replied there was no such thing as a gas chamber, they said: oh
yes,
our parents told us that we were going into another camp and that we would
be put into a gas chamber. We repeated there was no such thing, but they
answered: oh yes, oh yes, our father or mother, or uncle or cousin, ...
were
put into the gas chamber because they were Jews. The children were kept in
the camp for 2 or 3 weeks and were sent to the extermination camp in
Auschwitz. Even old and hardened prisoners who had witnessed great inhuman
treatment were deeply moved by the sight of the children".
000204: "There was no gas chamber in the camp in working order [!]. A gas
chamber was being built in the crematorium and in January 1945, work was
going on at a high speed. The chamber was soon completed except for the
gas
boiler [?]. A railway worker who had to go in and out of the camp told me
that a boiler had arrived at the Ostbanhof, Munich, from Auschwitz. But
this
boiler, together with many gas cylinders had been destroyed in an air
raid."
000212: "The years 1940/43 seem to have been the worst period in Dachau
and
other similar camps. I was told by eyewitnesses of the mass extermination
of
Jews who were sent in a gas chamber 500 at a time..." report on Prison
Camp
conditions dictated by Captain P.M. Martinot, 23 May, 1945.
000248: "Another specific provision was for a crematorium of four ovens
and
one gas chamber (called 'desinfection chamber') [!]. I do not know whether
this camp was ever built".
000250: "The most important building projects which were planned and
executed during my presence were as follows:... one crematorium called
"Barracke X" in the concentration camp at Dachau, containing six
individual
gas chambers [!] and 2 combustion ovens".
000277: "The Polish priests were compelled to build the well-known
crematory
and gas chambers (plural)... they were dragged by their legs to the
chambers
of death..."
000379: "Source said he visited a building that was designated as a shower
room, but which in reality was a gas chamber".
000417: "The following Signal Corps photos are contained in 1222614 and
have
been retained in the War Crimes Office in Washington D.C. Gas Chambers
[plural]".
000420: Photo of soldier in front of door reading "Gaszeit: (illegible)
Vorsicht! Gas! Lebensgefahr! Nicht Offnen!... Dachau Atrocity Camp: Gas
Chambers [plural], conveniently located to the crematory, are examined by
a
7th Army soldier. These are part of the horror chambers used by the Nazis
before the 7th Army liberated the camp."
000445: "The following Signal Corps photos are contained in 12226 and have
been retained in the War Crimes Office in Washington D.C.... (Gas
Chamber)"
[singular].
000455: "Photo... Yank examines fake showerhead in the gas chamber
[singular] at the Dachau Concentration Camp. Located in the crematory,
unknowing prisoners were brought into the shower room marked "showers".
here
they were stripped and after the door was closed, they were gassed".
000485: "Here also, there were gas chambers [plural] camouflaged as
"showers" into which prisoners were herded under the pretext of bathing
and
the huge crematory ovens".
000486: "Inside as well as outside [?] were gas chambers [plural] with
adjacent crematory ovens... almost 100 naked bodies were stacked neatly in
the barren room with cement floors. They had come from a room on the left
marked "Brausehad" for "shower bath". It really was a gas chamber
[singular]
a low ceilinged room about 30 feet square. After 15 or 20 were inside, the
doors were firmly sealed and the faucets turned on and poison gas issued
[!]. Then the bodies were hauled into a room separating the gas chamber
from
the crematorium. There were four huge ovens with a huge flue leading to a
smokeblackened stack".
000489: "The troops also discovered gas chambers, torture chambers and
ovens".
000496: "We saw the original gas chambers, four huge cells [!] into which
victims apparently were crowded and put to death. Later on this method was
improved by construction of a large chamber with a jet in the ceiling,
similar to showerbath sprinklers. The prisoners undressed in a room, where
a
man sat, with flowers on his desk, who gave them soap and a towel. Herded
into the shower room, the gas was turned on while the operator watched its
effect through a telescopic peephole".
000497: "Gas chamber executions".
000506: "Here one can see for oneself the lethal chamber where the people
the Nazis doomed were gassed. It has imitation shower baths, installations
with dummy sprinklers set in a pipeless ceiling [!], and gratings looking
like water drains in the floor through which gas was sent" (So did it come
through the floor or through the ceiling?).
000508: "Shower rooms' [plural again] where gas was poured [!] into
chambers. 000509: "Jarolin (deputy camp commander at Dachau, defendant in
Trial of Martin Gottfried Weiss)... said he thought they had gone to the
gas
chamber [singular]".
000513: "Gas chamber deaths at Belsen."
It was admitted by the prosecution that many inmates were mentally ill,
had
lost their minds, or were wandering around in a mental daze, yet their
statements were accepted as "fact", no matter how contradictory. It was
also
admitted that Dachau had 6 hospitals and that 15,000 people died of
disease
in the last few months, and that emaciation is a symptom of dysentery.
Defendants were convicted of "aiding and abetting in a common design",
even
if no accusations were made against them by inmates (case of Gretsch and
Schoepp).
http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Dachauscrapbook/Museum/1965Museum3.html
The photo above was taken by the U.S. Army on May 4, 1945, 5 days
after Dachau was liberated. It shows bodies laid out in rows on the
eastern side of the camp; a group of American newspaper reporters are
shown in the background. They had arrived to cover the story, at the
request of General Dwight D. Eisenhower. On May 1st, a group of
American Congressmen arrived and a film was made on May 2nd which
showed how the gas chamber operated.
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