Re: Samuelson on OIl Drilling

On Thu, 01 May 2008 05:43:18 -0700, Geo wrote:

> On May 1, 8:24 am, forbisga...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> On May 1, 4:24 am, Geo <taxpayer...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> > On Apr 30, 9:15 pm, "Sid9" <s...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> > > "Larry Hewitt" <larryh...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> > > > "Geo" <taxpayer...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> > > >> On Apr 30, 4:16 pm, "Sid9" <s...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> > > >>> "Larry Hewitt" <larryh...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> > > >>> > "John Galt" <whoisjohng...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> > > >>> >> <vjp2...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> > > >>> >>> It's in our interest to use up everybody else's oil before
our own.
>>
>> > > >>> >> It's not in our best interest to lower our standard of
living in the
>> > > >>> >> process, which is what the result will be.
>>
>> > > >>> > It is, in fact, very easy to _raise_ our standards of living
while
>> > > >>> > reducing oil consumption.
>>
>> > > >>> > For example, as much as 5% of domestic electric consummption
is the
>> > > >>> > result
>> > > >>> > of instant on fetures in consumer electronics or consumer
electronics
>> > > >>> > that
>> > > >>> > are always on (cable modem are surprisingly greedy).
>>
>> > > >>> > Using existing technology to change this as new electronics
are
>> > > >>> > purchased
>> > > >>> > would save the average family $12 a month. And at the same
time it
>> > > >>> > would
>> > > >>> > eliminate the need for 2 or 3 large electric generating
plants. Or the
>> > > >>> > freed up power could be used to run 200,000 all electric
cars.
>>
>> > > >>> > Larry
>>
>> > > >>> >> JG
>>
>> > > >>> >>>     - = -
>> > > >>> >>> Vasos Panagiotopoulos, Columbia'81+, Reagan, Mozart,
Pindus,
>> > > >>> >>> BioStrategist
>> > > >>> >>>    http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/vjp2/vasos.htm
>> > > >>> >>>  ---{Nothing herein constitutes advice.  Everything fully
>> > > >>> >>> disclaimed.}---
>> > > >>> >>>   [Homeland Security means private firearms not lazy
obstructive
>> > > >>> >>> guards]
>> > > >>> >>> [Urb sprawl confounds terror] [Remorse begets zeal]
[Windows is for
>> > > >>> >>> Bimbos]
>>
>> > > >>> Replace every incandescent lamp with a CFL.....how much will
that save?
>>
>> > > >>> Solar heat domestic hot war in our southern states...how much
will that
>> > > >>> save?
>>
>> > > >>> Restore the pre-Reagan energy saving rules...how much will that
save?
>>
>> > > >>> I'm sure there's a lot more that can be done on the
conservation side
>> > > >>> without reducing our quality of life.
>>
>> > > >>> We only need the leader****p...we surely do not have it in the
>> > > >>> Republicans.
>>
>> > > >> You know something, if you want to use a CFL, solar heat, or any
other
>> > > >> conservation method go right ahead and do it.  Why on earth, in
a free
>> > > >> society, do you need the govt telling you what kind of lightbulb
you
>> > > >> need?  Really, is there no end to what you think govt should be
doing
>> > > >> for you?
>>
>> > > > Ah, that ole libertarian crap.
>>
>> > > > I wanna do what I wanna do and noone can stop me.
>>
>> > > > No matter what damage I do to the property of others, what rights
of
>> > > > others I trample.
>>
>> > > > Everyone else should just shut up and let me do my  thing.
>>
>> > > > Yet when others try  this you whine and piss your pants.
>>
>> > > > Larry
>>
>> > > They hang the label "Libertarian" on themselves...actually they are
>> > > anarchists
>>
>> > Sid, you've become so conditioned and accepting of big govt and its
>> > intrusion into every aspect of your life that anything resembling
>> > personal responsibility or accountability would look like anarchy to
>> > you.
>>
>> Would you agree with the following:
>>   You don't want people intruding into certain aspects of your life.
>>   You believe you would have a better standard of living if others
>>      did not intrude into certain aspects of your life.
>>   You have certain rights that are not negotiable and others must
>>      respect.
>>   If others do not respect your rights then they will suffer the
>>      consequences of your retributive actions.
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> 
> What I agree with is that all individuals have the right to exercise
> sole dominion over their own lives, and have the right to live in
> whatever manner they choose, so long as they do not forcibly interfere
> with the equal right of others to live in whatever manner they
> choose.  In other words, do as you wish as long as it does not
> encroach on someone else's rights, property, or freedoms through force
> or fraud.

So you are not going to vote for any Republicans?

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