Re: Samuelson on OIl Drilling

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>>>>>>> It's in our interest to use up everybody else's oil before our
own.
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>>>>>> It's not in our best interest to lower our standard of living in
the 
>>>>>> process, which is what the result will be.
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>>>>>
>>>>> It is, in fact, very easy to _raise_ our standards of living while 
>>>>> reducing oil consumption.
>>>>>
>>>>> For example, as much as 5% of domestic electric consummption is the 
>>>>> result of instant on fetures in consumer electronics or consumer 
>>>>> electronics that are always on (cable modem are surprisingly
greedy).
>>>>
>>>> I am not in the least discounting conservation. But if we save 5%
while 
>>>> demand goes up 50%.........the law of arithmetic is not in the 
>>>> consumer's favor.
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>>> True.
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>>> But we can save 50% with no problem.
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>>> This was just a trivial, simple, cost free example.
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>>> Raisning US CAFE standards to 40 mpg for _all_ non-commercial
vehicales 
>>> will cut conumptio 20%
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>> Will people be able to afford the cars? These changes come as a price, 
>> which gets passed on to consumers in a regressive fa****on.
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> Absolutely. No problem.
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> ALready CAFE standards in Europe, for ex, are 10 mpg higher than here in

> the US
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> Part of the answer is smart diesel --- technology embraced in Europe but

> denied in the US by the Bush admin.

I'm stil on my last roll.

Please explain how the Bush administration can "deny" an independent 
cor****ation the right to bring out a new technology. While you're at it, 
explain why the Bush administration isn't "denying" BMW from bringing over

the hybrid fuel cell vehicle. Or the Smart Car.

JG



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> Another part is small , urban cars liek your Tata, the smart car, , etc 
> replacing the huge cars driving about town. Smart cars, for ex, are sold

> out monthsin advance of production.
> Electrci urban cars are another answer.
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> They can be made  to be affordable. The expense now is making them long 
> range.
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> This is one of the problems --- a made up problem --- put forth by the 
> right, the myth that even a 250 mile range is unacceptable.

>
> I driver 100 miles a week, mostly about towewn. I'd love an electric
car. 
> Even with the typical 50 mile a day commute here a 10 mile range is 
> enough --- chargeit up every night. But the right says plugging in a
cord 
> is too much owrk.
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> A _huge_ answer is phasing out suv's and "light" trucsk as passenger 
> vehicles. 3/4 of the guys I work with drive bug pickups that get less
than 
> 15 mpg.
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>>>
>>> Other savings are available, Why., for ex., does the Budweiser sign
need 
>>> to burn all night when the bar is closed?
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>> I fully agree. Why do office buildings have lights on at night?
>>
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> Power was cheap and plentiful.
>
> Larry
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>> JG
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>>> Do new car lots need to burn a billion candle power o lights when they

>>> are closed? (ther eis one here next tot he interstate that you can see
5 
>>> miles off!)
>>>
>>> We waste millions of kva, many genrated by oil and gas.
>>>
>>> Larry
>>>> JG
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>>>>>
>>>>> Using existing technology to change this as new electronics are 
>>>>> purchased would save the average family $12 a month. And at the same

>>>>> time it would eliminate the need for 2 or 3 large electric
generating 
>>>>> plants. Or the freed up power could be used to run 200,000 all 
>>>>> electric cars.
>>>>>
>>>>> Larry
>>>>>
>>>>>> JG
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     - = -
>>>>>>> Vasos Panagiotopoulos, Columbia'81+, Reagan, Mozart, Pindus, 
>>>>>>> BioStrategist
>>>>>>>    http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/vjp2/vasos.htm
>>>>>>>  ---{Nothing herein constitutes advice.  Everything fully 
>>>>>>> disclaimed.}---
>>>>>>>   [Homeland Security means private firearms not lazy obstructive 
>>>>>>> guards]
>>>>>>> [Urb sprawl confounds terror] [Remorse begets zeal] [Windows is
for 
>>>>>>> Bimbos]
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