Re: Samuelson on OIl Drilling

On May 1, 7:27 pm, The Trucker <mik...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Thu, 01 May 2008 05:43:18 -0700, Geo wrote:
> > On May 1, 8:24 am, forbisga...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> On May 1, 4:24 am, Geo <taxpayer...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> > On Apr 30, 9:15 pm, "Sid9" <s...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> > > "Larry Hewitt" <larryh...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> > > > "Geo" <taxpayer...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> > > >> On Apr 30, 4:16 pm, "Sid9" <s...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> > > >>> "Larry Hewitt" <larryh...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> > > >>>news:fvajnd$un3$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> > > >>> > "John Galt" <whoisjohng...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> > > >>> >news:UtXRj.117452$6i4.58782@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> > > >>> >> <vjp2...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> > > >>> >>news:fv9eie$rsa$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> > > >>> >>> It's in our interest to use up everybody else's oil
before our own.
>
> >> > > >>> >> It's not in our best interest to lower our standard of
living in the
> >> > > >>> >> process, which is what the result will be.
>
> >> > > >>> > It is, in fact, very easy to _raise_ our standards of
living while
> >> > > >>> > reducing oil consumption.
>
> >> > > >>> > For example, as much as 5% of domestic electric
consummption is the
> >> > > >>> > result
> >> > > >>> > of instant on fetures in consumer electronics or consumer
electronics
> >> > > >>> > that
> >> > > >>> > are always on (cable modem are surprisingly greedy).
>
> >> > > >>> > Using existing technology to change this as new electronics
are
> >> > > >>> > purchased
> >> > > >>> > would save the average family $12 a month. And at the same
time it
> >> > > >>> > would
> >> > > >>> > eliminate the need for 2 or 3 large electric generating
plants. Or the
> >> > > >>> > freed up power could be used to run 200,000 all electric
cars.
>
> >> > > >>> > Larry
>
> >> > > >>> >> JG
>
> >> > > >>> >>>     - = -
> >> > > >>> >>> Vasos Panagiotopoulos, Columbia'81+, Reagan, Mozart,
Pindus,
> >> > > >>> >>> BioStrategist
> >> > > >>> >>>   
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/vjp2/vasos.htm
> >> > > >>> >>>  ---{Nothing herein constitutes advice.  Everything fully
> >> > > >>> >>> disclaimed.}---
> >> > > >>> >>>   [Homeland Security means private firearms not lazy
obstructive
> >> > > >>> >>> guards]
> >> > > >>> >>> [Urb sprawl confounds terror] [Remorse begets zeal]
[Windows is for
> >> > > >>> >>> Bimbos]
>
> >> > > >>> Replace every incandescent lamp with a CFL.....how much will
that save?
>
> >> > > >>> Solar heat domestic hot war in our southern states...how much
will that
> >> > > >>> save?
>
> >> > > >>> Restore the pre-Reagan energy saving rules...how much will
that save?
>
> >> > > >>> I'm sure there's a lot more that can be done on the
conservation side
> >> > > >>> without reducing our quality of life.
>
> >> > > >>> We only need the leader****p...we surely do not have it in the
> >> > > >>> Republicans.
>
> >> > > >> You know something, if you want to use a CFL, solar heat, or
any other
> >> > > >> conservation method go right ahead and do it.  Why on earth,
in a free
> >> > > >> society, do you need the govt telling you what kind of
lightbulb you
> >> > > >> need?  Really, is there no end to what you think govt should
be doing
> >> > > >> for you?
>
> >> > > > Ah, that ole libertarian crap.
>
> >> > > > I wanna do what I wanna do and noone can stop me.
>
> >> > > > No matter what damage I do to the property of others, what
rights of
> >> > > > others I trample.
>
> >> > > > Everyone else should just shut up and let me do my  thing.
>
> >> > > > Yet when others try  this you whine and piss your pants.
>
> >> > > > Larry
>
> >> > > They hang the label "Libertarian" on themselves...actually they
are
> >> > > anarchists
>
> >> > Sid, you've become so conditioned and accepting of big govt and its
> >> > intrusion into every aspect of your life that anything resembling
> >> > personal responsibility or accountability would look like anarchy
to
> >> > you.
>
> >> Would you agree with the following:
> >>   You don't want people intruding into certain aspects of your life.
> >>   You believe you would have a better standard of living if others
> >>      did not intrude into certain aspects of your life.
> >>   You have certain rights that are not negotiable and others must
> >>      respect.
> >>   If others do not respect your rights then they will suffer the
> >>      consequences of your retributive actions.
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> > What I agree with is that all individuals have the right to exercise
> > sole dominion over their own lives, and have the right to live in
> > whatever manner they choose, so long as they do not forcibly interfere
> > with the equal right of others to live in whatever manner they
> > choose.  In other words, do as you wish as long as it does not
> > encroach on someone else's rights, property, or freedoms through force
> > or fraud.
>
> So you are not going to vote for any Republicans?
>

Depends on their platform.  I can tell you this much.  If Ron Paul
stays in the race he gets my vote.

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> if we think them not enlightened enough to
> exercise their control with a wholesome
> discretion, the remedy is not to take it from
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