Re: Samuelson on OIl Drilling

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> "John Galt" <whoisjohngalt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> "The Trucker" <mikcob@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> On Fri, 02 May 2008 08:16:14 +0800, John Galt wrote:
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>>>> "The Trucker" <mikcob@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>> On Thu, 01 May 2008 23:07:11 +0800, John Galt wrote:
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>>>>>> <forbisgaryg@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>> On May 1, 6:49 am, "John Galt" <whoisjohng...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>> On Apr 30, 9:31 am, "John Galt" <whoisjohng...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>> > You know, I'm writing this from Bangalore, where industrialists 
>>>>>>> > are
>>>>>>> > still
>>>>>>> > respected for their ability to lift standards of living. I'm 
>>>>>>> > trying to
>>>>>>> > figure out how Americans became so jaded that they forgot that 
>>>>>>> > little
>>>>>>> > fact.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Many of us did the fruit fly in a jar experiment.
>>>>>>> Now I know many poopoo Malthus.
>>>>>>> How does one know if one is in a jar or not?
>>>>>>> We can see the depletion of the resources.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>> I'm sure you have a point there, Gary, but I'm at a loss to figure

>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>> it is.
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>>>>>> The "ability to lift standards of living" isn't to be respected if
>>>>>> it isn't sustainable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ****
>>>>>> OK.....but it might not be the industrialists fault. They don't,
for
>>>>>> example, have access to the Treasury printing presses.
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>>>>> It depends on whether they "own" the government, doesn't it?
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>>>> Well, suffice to say that business has a legitimate seat at the 
>>>> governmental
>>>> table. If their influence becomes undue, then you have a problem.
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>>> In my own view of our "republican form of government", business does
not
>>> have near as large a legitimate seat and the governmental table as it
>>> currently does. Read the quote from Jefferson that I use as my
signature
>>> very carefully. You imply that businesses are better equipped to
advise
>>> the representatives of the people as to policy than are the common 
>>> people.
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>> That's not what I was implying. My point is that certain groups of 
>> individuals with like interests become of such im****t to the political 
>> reality that they have a legitimate right to be heard in a organized
and 
>> cogent fa****on. Cor****ations fit. So do lobbyists, whether cor****ate or

>> special interest. So do unions. So does the media.
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> The problem boils down to
> campaign financing and a
> USSC decision that equated
> money with free speech.

Well, Sid, you may be engaging in a little free association....  :-), but
I 
agree that that decision is an issue in restoring some sanity to our
system.
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> If money equals free speech
> then those with money have
> more free speech then those
> with little money.

Yep.

JG


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> The likelihood for change is
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