Re: Samuelson on OIl Drilling

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> >> On Thu, 01 May 2008 05:43:18 -0700, Geo wrote:
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> >> >> > > >>> >>> It's in our interest to use up everybody else's oil
before
> >> >> > > >>> >>> our own.
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> >> >> > > >>> >> It's not in our best interest to lower our standard of
> >> >> > > >>> >> living in the
> >> >> > > >>> >> process, which is what the result will be.
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> >> >> > > >>> > It is, in fact, very easy to _raise_ our standards of
living
> >> >> > > >>> > while
> >> >> > > >>> > reducing oil consumption.
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> >> >> > > >>> > For example, as much as 5% of domestic electric
consummption
> >> >> > > >>> > is the
> >> >> > > >>> > result
> >> >> > > >>> > of instant on fetures in consumer electronics or
consumer
> >> >> > > >>> > electronics
> >> >> > > >>> > that
> >> >> > > >>> > are always on (cable modem are surprisingly greedy).
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> >> >> > > >>> > Using existing technology to change this as new
electronics
> >> >> > > >>> > are
> >> >> > > >>> > purchased
> >> >> > > >>> > would save the average family $12 a month. And at the
same
> >> >> > > >>> > time it
> >> >> > > >>> > would
> >> >> > > >>> > eliminate the need for 2 or 3 large electric generating
> >> >> > > >>> > plants. Or the
> >> >> > > >>> > freed up power could be used to run 200,000 all electric
> >> >> > > >>> > cars.
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> >> >> > > >>> > Larry
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> >> >> > > >>> >> JG
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> >> >> > > >>> >>>     - = -
> >> >> > > >>> >>> Vasos Panagiotopoulos, Columbia'81+, Reagan, Mozart,
> >> >> > > >>> >>> Pindus,
> >> >> > > >>> >>> BioStrategist
> >> >> > > >>> >>>   
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/vjp2/vasos.htm
> >> >> > > >>> >>>  ---{Nothing herein constitutes advice.  Everything
fully
> >> >> > > >>> >>> disclaimed.}---
> >> >> > > >>> >>>   [Homeland Security means private firearms not lazy
> >> >> > > >>> >>> obstructive
> >> >> > > >>> >>> guards]
> >> >> > > >>> >>> [Urb sprawl confounds terror] [Remorse begets zeal]
> >> >> > > >>> >>> [Windows is for
> >> >> > > >>> >>> Bimbos]
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> >> >> > > >>> Replace every incandescent lamp with a CFL.....how much
will
> >> >> > > >>> that save?
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> >> >> > > >>> Solar heat domestic hot war in our southern states...how
much
> >> >> > > >>> will that
> >> >> > > >>> save?
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> >> >> > > >>> Restore the pre-Reagan energy saving rules...how much will
> >> >> > > >>> that save?
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> >> >> > > >>> I'm sure there's a lot more that can be done on the
> >> >> > > >>> conservation side
> >> >> > > >>> without reducing our quality of life.
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> >> >> > > >>> We only need the leader****p...we surely do not have it in
the
> >> >> > > >>> Republicans.
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> >> >> > > >> You know something, if you want to use a CFL, solar heat,
or
> >> >> > > >> any other
> >> >> > > >> conservation method go right ahead and do it.  Why on
earth, in
> >> >> > > >> a free
> >> >> > > >> society, do you need the govt telling you what kind of
> >> >> > > >> lightbulb you
> >> >> > > >> need?  Really, is there no end to what you think govt
should be
> >> >> > > >> doing
> >> >> > > >> for you?
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> >> >> > > > Ah, that ole libertarian crap.
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> >> >> > > > I wanna do what I wanna do and noone can stop me.
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> >> >> > > > No matter what damage I do to the property of others, what
> >> >> > > > rights of
> >> >> > > > others I trample.
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> >> >> > > > Everyone else should just shut up and let me do my  thing.
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> >> >> > > > Yet when others try  this you whine and piss your pants.
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> >> >> > > > Larry
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> >> >> > > They hang the label "Libertarian" on themselves...actually
they
> >> >> > > are
> >> >> > > anarchists
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> >> >> > Sid, you've become so conditioned and accepting of big govt and
its
> >> >> > intrusion into every aspect of your life that anything
resembling
> >> >> > personal responsibility or accountability would look like
anarchy to
> >> >> > you.
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> >> >> Would you agree with the following:
> >> >>   You don't want people intruding into certain aspects of your
life.
> >> >>   You believe you would have a better standard of living if others
> >> >>      did not intrude into certain aspects of your life.
> >> >>   You have certain rights that are not negotiable and others must
> >> >>      respect.
> >> >>   If others do not respect your rights then they will suffer the
> >> >>      consequences of your retributive actions.
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> >> >> >- Hide quoted text -
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> >> >> > - Show quoted text -
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> >> > What I agree with is that all individuals have the right to
exercise
> >> > sole dominion over their own lives, and have the right to live in
> >> > whatever manner they choose, so long as they do not forcibly
interfere
> >> > with the equal right of others to live in whatever manner they
> >> > choose.  In other words, do as you wish as long as it does not
> >> > encroach on someone else's rights, property, or freedoms through
force
> >> > or fraud.
>
> >> So you are not going to vote for any Republicans?
>
> > Depends on their platform.  I can tell you this much.  If Ron Paul
> > stays in the race he gets my vote.
>
> Ron Paul said he wont make a third party run.
> Limbo keeps attacking McCain perhaps
> he'll get someone to run that's satisfactory
> to you

Limbaugh is not a Libertarian so he won't back anyone that is
satisfactory to me.  At the end of the day he will back McCain.

> and the other dittoheads

I wouldn't know.  You'd have to ask dittoheads what they think.  They
seem to have as much disdain for Paul as you guys do.

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