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Re: Calvinism Refuted Total hereditary depravity (or Inherited Sin) ,

by "DRW" <free@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 11, 2006 at 05:27 PM

Original Sin is absolute, total bullshit. How any thinking 
person could accept this 'theory' or 'belief' is beyond 
comprehension.
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DRW
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> Calvinism Refuted Total hereditary depravity (or Inherited 
> Sin) ,
> COMPLETE READING :  http://www.bible.ca/cal-T-creeds.htm
> As defined by these official denominational creeds
> Webster Dictionary:
> "the utter depravity of man which Calvinists regard as due to 
> original sin and as persisting until regeneration through the 
> Spirit of God."
>
> John Calvin, the father of Calvinism said:
>
> "there are babies a span long in hell." (meaning there are 
> almost no newborn children in heaven.)
>
> Summary of Christian Doctrine, by Louis Berkhof, pg. 76
> "(1) Original sin. This includes both guilt and pollution. The 
> guilt of Adam's sin is imputed to us. Because he sinned as our 
> representative, we are guilty in him. Moreover, we also 
> inherit his pollution, and now have a positive disposition 
> toward sin. Man is by nature totally depraved."
>
> The Five Points of Calvinism, by Edwin H. Palmer, pg. 122
> (He quotes from The Belgic Confession of Faith Article XV)
> "We believe that through the disobedience of Adam original sin 
> is extended to all mankind; which is a corruption of the whole 
> nature and a hereditary disease, wherewith even infants in 
> their mother's womb are infected, and which produces in man 
> all sorts of sin, being in him as a root thereof, and 
> therefore is so vile and abominable in the sight of God that 
> it is sufficient to condemn all mankind."
>
> Charles Hodge's Systematic Theology:
> "8. _The Effects of Adam's Sin upon his Posterity. " That the 
> sin of Adam injured not himself only but also all descending 
> from him by ordinary generation, is part of the faith of the 
> whole Christian world."..."As to the ground of these evils, we 
> are taught that 'the covenant being made with Adam not only 
> for himself, but for his posterity, all mankind descending 
> from him by ordinary generation, sinned in him, and fell with 
> him in his first transgression.' Or, as is expressed in the 
> Confession, 'Our first parents, being the root of all mankind, 
> the guilt of their sin was imputed, and the same death in sin 
> and corrupted nature were conveyed to all their posterity, 
> descending from them by ordinary generation." (Vol. II, Part 
> II-Anthropology)
>
> Calvin's Institutes of the Christian Religion:
> Book II, Chap. I: 8: "But lest the thing itself of which we 
> speak be unknown or doubtful, it will be proper to define 
> original sin (Calvin, in Conc. Trident. I., Dec. Sess. v.). I 
> have no intention, however, to discuss all the definitions 
> which different writers have adopted, but only to adduce the 
> one which seems to me most accordant with truth. Original sin, 
> then, may be defined a hereditary corruption and depravity of 
> our nature, extending to all parts of the soul, which first 
> makes us obnoxious to the wrath of God, and then produces in 
> us works which in Scripture are termed works of the flesh. 
> This corruption is repeatedly designated by Paul by the term 
> sin (Gal. v.19)...."
>
> The Reformed Doctrine of Predestination, by Loraine Boettner, 
> pg. 77
> "Adam was made not only the father but also the representative 
> of the whole human race. And if we fully understood the 
> closeness of the relation between him and them we would fully 
> realize the justice of the transmission of his sin to them."
>
> Presbyterian:
> Confession of Faith: "Our first parents, being seduced by the 
> subtlety and temptation of Satan, sinned in eating the 
> forbidden fruit. This their sin, God was pleased, according to 
> his wise and holy counsel, to permit, having purposed to order 
> it to his own glory. By this sin they fell from their original 
> righteousness and communion with God, and so became dead in 
> sin, and wholly defiled in all the faculties and parts of the 
> soul and body. They being the root of all mankind, the guilt 
> of this sin was imputed and the same death in sin and 
> corrupted nature conveyed to all their posterity descending 
> from them by ordinary generation. From this original 
> corruption, whereby we are utterly indisposed, disabled, and 
> made opposite to all good, and wholly inclined to all evil, do 
> proceed all actual transgressions."
>
> Roman Catholic:
> Council of Trent 1545-1563: "Adam's first sin has been 
> transmitted to all his descendants". Questions of Catholics 
> Answered by W. Hebst: "Yes, every child born into this world 
> has the guilt of original sin upon his soul. Original sin is 
> the sin that we inherit from our first parents. Original sin 
> excludes us from heaven unless forgiven. It is forgiven only 
> by baptism, hence when an unbaptized baby dies, it can not 
> enter the kingdom of God."
>
> Lutheran:
> Augsburg confession Article 2: "It is also taught among us 
> that since the fall of Adam all men who are born according to 
> the course of nature are conceived and born in sin. That is, 
> all men are full of evil lust and inclination from their 
> mother's womb and are unable by nature to have true fear of 
> God and true faith in God. Moreover, this inborn sickness and 
> hereditary sin is truly sin and condemns to the eternal wrath 
> of God all whose who are not born again through baptism and 
> the Holy Spirit."
>
> Methodist:
> Methodist Discipline: (Since) "infants are guilty of original 
> sin, then they are proper subjects of baptism, seeing in the 
> ordinary way, they cannot be saved unless this be washed away 
> by baptism. It has already been proved that this original sin 
> cleaves to every child of man, and hereby they are children of 
> wrath and liable to eternal damnation."
>
> Anglican:
> Common Book of Prayer, Articles of Religion IX & X: "Original 
> sin standeth not in the following of Adam, but it is the fault 
> and corruption of the nature of every man, that naturally is 
> ingendered of the offspring of Adam; whereby man is very far 
> gone from original righteousness, and is of his own nature 
> inclined to evil, so that the flesh lusteth always contrary to 
> the spirit; and therefore in every person born into this 
> world, it deserveth God's wrath and damnation. And this 
> infection of nature doth remain, yea in them that are 
> regenerated; whereby the lust of the flesh, called in the 
> Greek... which some do expound the wisdom, some sensuality, 
> some the affection, some the desire, of the flesh, is not 
> subject to the Law of God. And although there is no 
> condemnation for them that believe and are baptized, yet the 
> Apostle doth confess, that concupiscence and lust hath of 
> itself the nature of sin." "The condition of man after the 
> fall of Adam is such, that he cannot turn and prepare himself, 
> by his own natural strength and good works, to faith, and 
> calling upon God: Wherefore we have no power to do good works 
> pleasant and acceptable to God, without the grace of God by 
> Christ preventing us, that we may have a good will, and 
> working with us, when we have that good will."
>
> Church of the Nazarene:
> Manual, Article 5: "We believe that sin came into the world 
> through the disobedience of our first parents, and death by 
> sin. We believe that sin is of two kinds: original sin or 
> depravity, and actual or personal sin. We believe that 
> original sin, or depravity, is that corruption of the nature 
> of all the offspring of Adam by reason of which everyone is 
> very far gone from the original righteousness or the pure 
> state of our first parents at the time of their creation, is 
> averse to God, is without spiritual life, and inclined to 
> evil, and that continually. We further believe that original 
> sin continues to exist with the new life of the regenerate, 
> until eradicated by the baptism with the Holy Spirit. We 
> believe that original sin differs from actual sin in that it 
> constitutes an inherited propensity to actual sin for which no 
> one is accountable until its divinely provided remedy is 
> neglected or rejected."
>
> Christian and Missionary Alliance:
> Manual, Statement of faith Article III # 5: "Man was 
> Originally created in the image and likeness of God; he fell 
> through disobedience, incurring thereby both physical and 
> spiritual death. All men are born with a sinful nature, are 
> separated from the life of God, and can be saved only through 
> the atoning work of the Lord Jesus Christ.
>
> Pentecostal:
> Statement of Fundamental and Essential Truths: Article IV: 
> "Man was Originally created in the image and likeness of God. 
> He fell through sin, and as a consequence, incurred both 
> spiritual and physical death. Spiritual death and the 
> depravity of human nature have been transmitted to the entire 
> human race with the exception of the Man Jesus. Man can be 
> saved only through the atoning work of the Lord Jesus Christ.
>
> Baptist:
> Philadelphia Confession of Faith: "Our first parents by this 
> sin fell from their original righteousness and communion with 
> God, and we in them, whereby death came upon all, all becoming 
> dead in sin, and wholly defiled in all the faculties and parts 
> of the souls and body. The guilt of sin was imputed (and 
> corrupt nature conveyed) to all their posterity descending 
> from them by ordinary generation, being now conceived in sin, 
> the subjects of death and all other spiritual miseries, 
> temporal and eternal, unless the Lord Jesus set them free. 
> From the original corruption-whereby we are utterly indisposed 
> disabled, and made opposite to all good and wholly inclined to 
> all evil, do proceed all actual transgressions."
>
> Associated Gospel Churches "AGC"
> Articles of Faith and Doctrine V & VI: "We believe that man, 
> originally created in the image and after the likeness of God, 
> fell from his high and holy estate through disobedience, by 
> eating the forbidden fruit, and in consequence, the threatened 
> penalty of death was then and there inflicted, so that he 
> totally lost all spiritual life, becoming dead in trespasses 
> and sins, and subject to the power of the devil." "We believe 
> that this spiritual death, or total corruption of human 
> nature, has been transmitted to the entire race of man, the 
> man Christ Jesus alone excepted, and hence that every child of 
> Adam is born into the world with a sinful nature."
>
>
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