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Conversation with so-called "****ist" woman from Brisbane

by "Dario Western" <dariowestern@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 30, 2008 at 10:37 PM

Hi all,

So, ****ism is supposed to be about accepting the body and the person for
who 
they are?  Well, I had a very interesting conversation with a 23 year old 
lady from Brisbane whose family used to visit Sunleisure until the place 
closed down and she dumped her ****ist boyfriend for another guy she met 
there because of the size of his ***** and he inherited a lot of money
from 
his grandad when he passed away.

I just felt like exposing this woman for being the hypocritical
gold-digger 
and size queen she is.  Girls like her are a disgrace to the ****ist 
movement!

Warning: this conversation is rather long but she shows herself up.  I
don't 
suffer anybody who plays the fool with me either online or in real life.

Here is the transcript printed without any alteration:

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

hi

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

hi

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

your a ****ist are you?

Dario Western says:

hi, yes. I live in Brisbane and am working on a young adults ****ist group.

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

oh

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

im in bris too

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

where u go?

Dario Western says:

I go to pacific sun friends, balkaz, and brisbane friendly bares groups.

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

ohh

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

we used to go to sunleisure

Dario Western says:

i want to get something started to encourage under 40's to get more active

with it

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

and sun****ne familiies

Dario Western says:

i didn't like either of those places

Dario Western says:

the owners were rude and sleazy

Dario Western says:

there is another place near the old sunleisure site called Len's happy 
valley which is very nice though

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

yea

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

ohh

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

is that open?

Dario Western says:

yes

Dario Western says:

it's a private place - he doesn't allow just anyone to visit

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

ur family ****ists?

Dario Western says:

i'm the only ****ist in my family

Dario Western says:

the others aren't interested at all

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

ok

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

what did u think of sunleisuire?

Dario Western says:

i didn't like it - it was run down, the people were rude and unfriendly

Dario Western says:

i only went once and that was enough for me

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

my family owned that

Dario Western says:

how long ago was that?

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

nah just kidding

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

ut at least they had some young ppl there

Dario Western says:

there were a couple when i went and they were all fully dressed

Dario Western says:

and they looked so bored

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

my parents had a caravan site there

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

theiir was always a few young ppl around

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

Lance & Ross - those 2 guys

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

u ever met them?

Dario Western says:

no

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

oh

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

bummer

Dario Western says:

i only went once on new year's day in 2002

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

oh u shoulda came more often

Dario Western says:

i wanted to go to the triathlon in 1999

Dario Western says:

but had to work that day

Dario Western says:

besides that i couldn't find anyone else to go with me

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

ok

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

well it was a good place

Dario Western says:

it was very run down when I saw it

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

well their fees wernt too bad

Dario Western says:

I prefer places which are more upmarket

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

haha

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

how much would u pay to go upmarket?

Dario Western says:

$15-$20 for a day visit

Dario Western says:

Balkaz is really classy and they charge $15 per person

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

not enough - unless u got about 80 mates

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

been there not bad

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

u got a ****ist GF?

Dario Western says:

I'm going there on Saturday for the World ****d gardening day

Dario Western says:

i want to get 4 others up for a day visit to help out with the house and 
gardening work

Dario Western says:

no

Dario Western says:

both my g/fs weren't ****ists, but they did go to ****ist places with me

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

ok

Dario Western says:

i managed to convert one of them and she's now going out with a guy she
met 
at the brisbane forum club

Dario Western says:

the other one only went to the **** swims with me but when we broke up she

didn't continue her involvement

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

oh ok

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

she left ya for another guy?

Dario Western says:

how old are you if you don't mind me asking?

Dario Western says:

yep

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

23

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

u

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

howcome she did that?

Dario Western says:

I'm 37

Dario Western says:

we weren't really right for each other

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

oh well your hardly under 40

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

did the other guy have a big wanger?

Dario Western says:

yes

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

really

Dario Western says:

from what i was told he virtually wor****pped it as well - he was into
public 
*** as well

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

that happens

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

lucky guy

Dario Western says:

but I thought that ****ism isn't supposed to be about body shape and size

Dario Western says:

it's about accepting what you've got

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

well we're only human

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

how big was this guy?

Dario Western says:

i don't know, but he was taller and older than me

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

oh

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

was he like 6" soft or something?

Dario Western says:

she went for older guys - she was 18 when we first dated - I was 32 and
she

Dario Western says:

can we get away from the ***** comparison topic?

Dario Western says:

I'm not into ****ism to worry about genitalia

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

im just asking

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

its a part of the body ya gotta accept it

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

apart of ****ism is being open and accepting

Dario Western says:

i don't compare genitalia with other guys

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

well girls compare with other girls

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

how big ru then?

Dario Western says:

****ism is not meant to be about that

Dario Western says:

you'd have to meet me in real life to find that out

Dario Western says:

i'm not telling online

Dario Western says:

in a nutshell, the relation****p had nothing to do with my ***** size

Dario Western says:

we came from radically different backgrounds and generations and that's
why 
the relation****p didn't work out

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

oh well

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

u got a small 1?

Dario Western says:

what does that matter to you?

Dario Western says:

can you please quit with this topic and talk about something else?

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

ok

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

many young ppl go to balkaz?

Dario Western says:

a few do

Dario Western says:

though it's mostly middle aged couples between 40-60 years that go

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

oh bummer

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

ive see a few teens there

Dario Western says:

they get a few famileis that go along

Dario Western says:

so have i, but they don't participate

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

nah i've seen some participate

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

i convinced em

Dario Western says:

when I was there one time there was a girl who was about 16 who sat around

the pool fully dressed the whole time

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

oh

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

was she hot?

Dario Western says:

she was alright

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

oh

Dario Western says:

there aren't too many young ladies involved in ****ism here

Dario Western says:

i met a few at pacific sun friends in 2005 for the RAW festival, but they 
didn't really continue with it

Dario Western says:

I tried inviting them to future ****ist events but they didn't seem all
that 
bothered, so eventually I just gave up

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

oh well

Dario Western says:

I've got this group on msn that you might like to join: 
http://groups.msn.com/YoungBrisbaneNaturists

Dario Western says:

there's only 11 on it so far, and I'm cutting the member****p down because
a 
number have joined it but not bothered to contribute anything

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

theres young ****ists groups around i think

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

under 30's that is

Dario Western says:

none in australia anymore

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

brisbane there is

Dario Western says:

even the YNOA has gone to ground

Dario Western says:

i'm not aware of them - there was one called YNN which i was on for a
while 
but the moderator kicked me off because he said i was too old for them

Dario Western says:

since then nobody's bothered with it anymore

Dario Western says:

it seems to me that young adults seem more apathetic towards ****ism than 
their previous generations were

grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says:

ah well

Dario Western says:

it was thriving back in the 50's - 70's

Dario Western says:

Do you go to any ****ist events or places at present?

jenny says:

balkaz sometimes

jenny says:

a-bay

jenny says:

club orient

Dario Western says:

never heard of club orient

jenny says:

its at St Martins

jenny says:

go ther once a year

Dario Western says:

looks very nice

Dario Western says:

do you work or study?

jenny says:

work

jenny says:

nurse

jenny says:

u been to aquarius?

Dario Western says:

no, I haven't

Dario Western says:

going from what i've heard I wouldn't be welcome

jenny says:

eh prdinary

jenny says:

howcome?

Dario Western says:

they don't welcome single males

jenny says:

yea well

Dario Western says:

i've no time for any ****ist place that doesn't accept them

Dario Western says:

added to that i've heard that coral robinson is a very grumpy so-and-so

Dario Western says:

i don't want to go to any ****ist places where the people are unfriendly

Dario Western says:

i'm looking at club orient's stie - it looks like a lovely place

Dario Western says:

why can't we have more places like that in australia?

jenny says:

well not enough people here

jenny says:

and its costly there

jenny says:

cos most people here are white trash

Dario Western says:

not all of them are

Dario Western says:

i know a number of ****ists here who are very nice people with high
standards 
of living

jenny says:

like me

Dario Western says:

jenny says:

well most are white trash

jenny says:

51% at least are

Dario Western says:

they're not really worth worrying about

jenny says:

hmm

jenny says:

wheres the upper class ones?

Dario Western says:

most tend to go to a bay or visit clubs on the quiet

Dario Western says:

they don't like other people to know about it

jenny says:

ok

jenny says:

u seen any famous people at ****ist places?

Dario Western says:

no, but there are a few I'd like to

Dario Western says:

most celebrities tend to be home ****ists

Dario Western says:

they don't endorse any clubs or beaches that they go to

jenny says:

oh well

Dario Western says:

there are a few australian celebrities who are into ****ism that I know of

jenny says:

like who,?

Dario Western says:

fiona horne, cheyne coates from madison avenue

Dario Western says:

magnus clarke from university challenge was one, but he's dead now

Dario Western says:

i've met fiona horne a few times

jenny says:

never seen them!

Dario Western says:

fiona's done a number of naturist type photo shoots for black & white 
magazine and playboy

jenny says:

ohok

jenny says:

ah well

jenny says:

havnt seen them at balkaz

Dario Western says:

cheyne coates also did an interveiw for TAN magazine some eyars ago

jenny says:

what do u think of big al?

Dario Western says:

and bessie bardot is also a ****ist, I saw her at ***po in 2004

Dario Western says:

i like him, he's a very fun loving guy

jenny says:

yeah

Dario Western says:

get on quite well with him and karen

jenny says:

does he like you?

Dario Western says:

yes

jenny says:

nah he doesnt

jenny says:

Dario Western says:

jenny says:

he likes me better

Dario Western says:

when did you last go there?

jenny says:

couple of months ago

jenny says:

hes freinds with the guy who used to own sunleisure

Dario Western says:

colin is dead now

jenny says:

i know

jenny says:

did u know him?

Dario Western says:

yes

jenny says:

what u think of him?

Dario Western says:

i found him rude, arrogant and unfriendly

jenny says:

nah thats not him

Dario Western says:

the same as archie from sun****ne families

jenny says:

u meet his teenage grandsons there?

Dario Western says:

archie tried to hit on my then-girlfriend when he was drunk when we
visited

Dario Western says:

no

jenny says:

oh

jenny says:

they are nicde

jenny says:

cols nice too

jenny says:

frined of the family

jenny says:

been to his house and all

Dario Western says:

last time i heard he was living in joyner before he died

jenny says:

yea

jenny says:

nice house

jenny says:

he was wealthy too

Dario Western says:

so i heard

jenny says:

yea

Dario Western says:

wasn't he into property management or something like that?

jenny says:

$20 million i heard from his grandson

jenny says:

btw im dating his grandson

Dario Western says:

ah right

Dario Western says:

there was only one young fellow i met with him and he was called Scott

Dario Western says:

i don't know if he was a friend or a relative

jenny says:

friend

jenny says:

i thnk

jenny says:

how old was he?

Dario Western says:

he was about 11 or 12

Dario Western says:

probably would be about 23 years old now

jenny says:

ok

jenny says:

might be a nephew'

jenny says:

who else thats young that u know thats a ****ist

jenny says:

u go to brisbane forum?

Dario Western says:

not anymore

jenny says:

howcome?

Dario Western says:

it's been taken over by unscrupulous people

jenny says:

oh

jenny says:

i havnt been there since last year

jenny says:

theres some young ppl there

Dario Western says:

i now go to brisbane friendly bares and am working on a christian naturist

group and a young adults group

jenny says:

isnt brisbane friendly bares for gays?

Dario Western says:

no

jenny says:

any females there?

Dario Western says:

anyone can go along, though they are putting restrictions on single fellas

Dario Western says:

yes, a number of them

Dario Western says:

most are part of a couple, we've had a couple of ladies turn up on their
own

jenny says:

attractive ones?

jenny says:

cos i dont wanna be the only one

Dario Western says:

they don't look like models

jenny says:

oh ok

jenny says:

well

Dario Western says:

we had one lady in her late 30's who came with her partner, she was
gorgeous 
but didn't want to go back again

jenny says:

oh howcome

Dario Western says:

she didn't feel comfortable with some of the people, but she talks to me 
quite a lot

jenny says:

ok

jenny says:

u know anyone who went to sunleisure before?

Dario Western says:

there were two norwegian media students who went there to do a doco on 
brisbane naturists which never went to air

Dario Western says:

alister cowper

Dario Western says:

adam spencer from triple j radio

Dario Western says:

a couple called mark & melissa and their young son zach

Dario Western says:

that's about it

jenny says:

oh ok

jenny says:

i think i know alistair

Dario Western says:

didn't you used to go out with him at one stage?

jenny says:

years ago

jenny says:

haha

jenny says:

like 2002

jenny says:

what do u think of him?

Dario Western says:

he came to the forum club a couple of times and have seen him at a few
beach 
parties

Dario Western says:

he's ok, a bit on the conservative side and rather shy

jenny says:

ok

jenny says:

what makes ya think he's conservative?

Dario Western says:

his political views

Dario Western says:

he sup****ted Johnny Howard and the Libs

jenny says:

ah wel

jenny says:

what can ya do

Dario Western says:

nothing

jenny says:

u talked to him much?

Dario Western says:

i'm not slavish to any political parties

Dario Western says:

a little bit, he stopped going to the forum club because he thought it was

boring

jenny says:

ohh

jenny says:

he liked sunleisure

Dario Western says:

he felt out of place with all the older people there

jenny says:

where i met him

jenny says:

oh

jenny says:

what did he do?

Dario Western says:

he told me that he liked it there

Dario Western says:

he didn't do anything, it just wasn't his type of scene

jenny says:

ohh

jenny says:

well

jenny says:

i think he got teased once at sunleisure

Dario Western says:

i think he wanted something more interesting than to laze about on the
side 
of the pool and do nothing

Dario Western says:

can't say that i blame them for that either

Dario Western says:

what did he get teased about?

jenny says:

cos he had a small willie

Dario Western says:

that should never have happened

Dario Western says:

if i owned the place i'd have pulled up the people responsible and told
them 
to behave or they'd get expelled

jenny says:

eh well ya cant be everywhere

jenny says:

u think he's got a small one?

Dario Western says:

with my groups i won't put up with behaviour like that

Dario Western says:

i don't know and i don't care

Dario Western says:

i don't go by external appearances

Dario Western says:

he's alright, but I don't know him very well

jenny says:

oh ok

jenny says:

actually he was teased by my current BF

jenny says:

he was like 15 at the time

Dario Western says:

yeah?

Dario Western says:

jenny says:

yea

jenny says:

and al was 18 i think

jenny says:

u think ross just wanted to get me i think haha

Dario Western says:

who knows?

jenny says:

yea

jenny says:

but ross - wow what a cock

jenny says:

who could blame me

Dario Western says:

if you go for guys on their ***** size alone, then you are in a
relation****p 
for the wrong reasons

Dario Western says:

being a ****ist yourself you should know that

jenny says:

well im only human

Dario Western says:

it's not the size that counts it's the way you use it

jenny says:

and ross is hot

jenny says:

and rich

jenny says:

he didnt use it well

Dario Western says:

it doesn't paint you in a good light if all that attracts you to guys is 
money and their ***** size

jenny says:

that and other things

jenny says:

well would u rater be rich, 21 and well hung?

jenny says:

honestly

Dario Western says:

i don't care

jenny says:

yea u do

Dario Western says:

if a girl doesn't accept me the way i am, then that's her problem

jenny says:

your not honnest with yourself

Dario Western says:

i've no time for superficial gold-diggers

jenny says:

that why u dont have a GF?

Dario Western says:

i'm not interested in one at the moment

jenny says:

yea right!

jenny says:

well you arent being honeest then

Dario Western says:

i'm being honest with you



<conversation was terminated by her at this point in time>


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 4 Posts in Topic:
Conversation with so-called "****ist" woman from Brisbane
"Dario Western"  2008-04-30 22:37:54 
Re: Conversation with so-called "****ist" woman from Brisbane
Sylvia Else <sylvia@[E  2008-05-01 15:25:57 
Re: Conversation with so-called "****ist" woman from Brisbane
Zee <jonZeee@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-01 07:03:54 
Re: Conversation with so-called "****ist" woman from Brisbane
"Dario Western"  2008-05-03 08:23:44 

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