Hi all,
So, ****ism is supposed to be about accepting the body and the person for
who
they are? Well, I had a very interesting conversation with a 23 year old
lady from Brisbane whose family used to visit Sunleisure until the place
closed down and she dumped her ****ist boyfriend for another guy she met
there because of the size of his ***** and he inherited a lot of money
from
his grandad when he passed away.
I just felt like exposing this woman for being the hypocritical
gold-digger
and size queen she is. Girls like her are a disgrace to the ****ist
movement!
Warning: this conversation is rather long but she shows herself up. I
don't
suffer anybody who plays the fool with me either online or in real life.
Here is the transcript printed without any alteration:
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
hi
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
hi
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
your a ****ist are you?
Dario Western says:
hi, yes. I live in Brisbane and am working on a young adults ****ist group.
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
oh
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
im in bris too
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
where u go?
Dario Western says:
I go to pacific sun friends, balkaz, and brisbane friendly bares groups.
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
ohh
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
we used to go to sunleisure
Dario Western says:
i want to get something started to encourage under 40's to get more active
with it
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
and sun****ne familiies
Dario Western says:
i didn't like either of those places
Dario Western says:
the owners were rude and sleazy
Dario Western says:
there is another place near the old sunleisure site called Len's happy
valley which is very nice though
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
yea
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
ohh
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
is that open?
Dario Western says:
yes
Dario Western says:
it's a private place - he doesn't allow just anyone to visit
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
ur family ****ists?
Dario Western says:
i'm the only ****ist in my family
Dario Western says:
the others aren't interested at all
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
ok
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
what did u think of sunleisuire?
Dario Western says:
i didn't like it - it was run down, the people were rude and unfriendly
Dario Western says:
i only went once and that was enough for me
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
my family owned that
Dario Western says:
how long ago was that?
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
nah just kidding
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
ut at least they had some young ppl there
Dario Western says:
there were a couple when i went and they were all fully dressed
Dario Western says:
and they looked so bored
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
my parents had a caravan site there
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
theiir was always a few young ppl around
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
Lance & Ross - those 2 guys
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
u ever met them?
Dario Western says:
no
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
oh
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
bummer
Dario Western says:
i only went once on new year's day in 2002
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
oh u shoulda came more often
Dario Western says:
i wanted to go to the triathlon in 1999
Dario Western says:
but had to work that day
Dario Western says:
besides that i couldn't find anyone else to go with me
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
ok
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
well it was a good place
Dario Western says:
it was very run down when I saw it
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
well their fees wernt too bad
Dario Western says:
I prefer places which are more upmarket
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
haha
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
how much would u pay to go upmarket?
Dario Western says:
$15-$20 for a day visit
Dario Western says:
Balkaz is really classy and they charge $15 per person
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
not enough - unless u got about 80 mates
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
been there not bad
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
u got a ****ist GF?
Dario Western says:
I'm going there on Saturday for the World ****d gardening day
Dario Western says:
i want to get 4 others up for a day visit to help out with the house and
gardening work
Dario Western says:
no
Dario Western says:
both my g/fs weren't ****ists, but they did go to ****ist places with me
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
ok
Dario Western says:
i managed to convert one of them and she's now going out with a guy she
met
at the brisbane forum club
Dario Western says:
the other one only went to the **** swims with me but when we broke up she
didn't continue her involvement
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
oh ok
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
she left ya for another guy?
Dario Western says:
how old are you if you don't mind me asking?
Dario Western says:
yep
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
23
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
u
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
howcome she did that?
Dario Western says:
I'm 37
Dario Western says:
we weren't really right for each other
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
oh well your hardly under 40
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
did the other guy have a big wanger?
Dario Western says:
yes
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
really
Dario Western says:
from what i was told he virtually wor****pped it as well - he was into
public
*** as well
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
that happens
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
lucky guy
Dario Western says:
but I thought that ****ism isn't supposed to be about body shape and size
Dario Western says:
it's about accepting what you've got
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
well we're only human
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
how big was this guy?
Dario Western says:
i don't know, but he was taller and older than me
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
oh
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
was he like 6" soft or something?
Dario Western says:
she went for older guys - she was 18 when we first dated - I was 32 and
she
Dario Western says:
can we get away from the ***** comparison topic?
Dario Western says:
I'm not into ****ism to worry about genitalia
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
im just asking
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
its a part of the body ya gotta accept it
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
apart of ****ism is being open and accepting
Dario Western says:
i don't compare genitalia with other guys
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
well girls compare with other girls
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
how big ru then?
Dario Western says:
****ism is not meant to be about that
Dario Western says:
you'd have to meet me in real life to find that out
Dario Western says:
i'm not telling online
Dario Western says:
in a nutshell, the relation****p had nothing to do with my ***** size
Dario Western says:
we came from radically different backgrounds and generations and that's
why
the relation****p didn't work out
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
oh well
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
u got a small 1?
Dario Western says:
what does that matter to you?
Dario Western says:
can you please quit with this topic and talk about something else?
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
ok
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
many young ppl go to balkaz?
Dario Western says:
a few do
Dario Western says:
though it's mostly middle aged couples between 40-60 years that go
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
oh bummer
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
ive see a few teens there
Dario Western says:
they get a few famileis that go along
Dario Western says:
so have i, but they don't participate
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
nah i've seen some participate
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
i convinced em
Dario Western says:
when I was there one time there was a girl who was about 16 who sat around
the pool fully dressed the whole time
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
oh
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
was she hot?
Dario Western says:
she was alright
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
oh
Dario Western says:
there aren't too many young ladies involved in ****ism here
Dario Western says:
i met a few at pacific sun friends in 2005 for the RAW festival, but they
didn't really continue with it
Dario Western says:
I tried inviting them to future ****ist events but they didn't seem all
that
bothered, so eventually I just gave up
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
oh well
Dario Western says:
I've got this group on msn that you might like to join:
http://groups.msn.com/YoungBrisbaneNaturists
Dario Western says:
there's only 11 on it so far, and I'm cutting the member****p down because
a
number have joined it but not bothered to contribute anything
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
theres young ****ists groups around i think
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
under 30's that is
Dario Western says:
none in australia anymore
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
brisbane there is
Dario Western says:
even the YNOA has gone to ground
Dario Western says:
i'm not aware of them - there was one called YNN which i was on for a
while
but the moderator kicked me off because he said i was too old for them
Dario Western says:
since then nobody's bothered with it anymore
Dario Western says:
it seems to me that young adults seem more apathetic towards ****ism than
their previous generations were
grammar_chick_au@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says:
ah well
Dario Western says:
it was thriving back in the 50's - 70's
Dario Western says:
Do you go to any ****ist events or places at present?
jenny says:
balkaz sometimes
jenny says:
a-bay
jenny says:
club orient
Dario Western says:
never heard of club orient
jenny says:
its at St Martins
jenny says:
go ther once a year
Dario Western says:
looks very nice
Dario Western says:
do you work or study?
jenny says:
work
jenny says:
nurse
jenny says:
u been to aquarius?
Dario Western says:
no, I haven't
Dario Western says:
going from what i've heard I wouldn't be welcome
jenny says:
eh prdinary
jenny says:
howcome?
Dario Western says:
they don't welcome single males
jenny says:
yea well
Dario Western says:
i've no time for any ****ist place that doesn't accept them
Dario Western says:
added to that i've heard that coral robinson is a very grumpy so-and-so
Dario Western says:
i don't want to go to any ****ist places where the people are unfriendly
Dario Western says:
i'm looking at club orient's stie - it looks like a lovely place
Dario Western says:
why can't we have more places like that in australia?
jenny says:
well not enough people here
jenny says:
and its costly there
jenny says:
cos most people here are white trash
Dario Western says:
not all of them are
Dario Western says:
i know a number of ****ists here who are very nice people with high
standards
of living
jenny says:
like me
Dario Western says:
jenny says:
well most are white trash
jenny says:
51% at least are
Dario Western says:
they're not really worth worrying about
jenny says:
hmm
jenny says:
wheres the upper class ones?
Dario Western says:
most tend to go to a bay or visit clubs on the quiet
Dario Western says:
they don't like other people to know about it
jenny says:
ok
jenny says:
u seen any famous people at ****ist places?
Dario Western says:
no, but there are a few I'd like to
Dario Western says:
most celebrities tend to be home ****ists
Dario Western says:
they don't endorse any clubs or beaches that they go to
jenny says:
oh well
Dario Western says:
there are a few australian celebrities who are into ****ism that I know of
jenny says:
like who,?
Dario Western says:
fiona horne, cheyne coates from madison avenue
Dario Western says:
magnus clarke from university challenge was one, but he's dead now
Dario Western says:
i've met fiona horne a few times
jenny says:
never seen them!
Dario Western says:
fiona's done a number of naturist type photo shoots for black & white
magazine and playboy
jenny says:
ohok
jenny says:
ah well
jenny says:
havnt seen them at balkaz
Dario Western says:
cheyne coates also did an interveiw for TAN magazine some eyars ago
jenny says:
what do u think of big al?
Dario Western says:
and bessie bardot is also a ****ist, I saw her at ***po in 2004
Dario Western says:
i like him, he's a very fun loving guy
jenny says:
yeah
Dario Western says:
get on quite well with him and karen
jenny says:
does he like you?
Dario Western says:
yes
jenny says:
nah he doesnt
jenny says:
Dario Western says:
jenny says:
he likes me better
Dario Western says:
when did you last go there?
jenny says:
couple of months ago
jenny says:
hes freinds with the guy who used to own sunleisure
Dario Western says:
colin is dead now
jenny says:
i know
jenny says:
did u know him?
Dario Western says:
yes
jenny says:
what u think of him?
Dario Western says:
i found him rude, arrogant and unfriendly
jenny says:
nah thats not him
Dario Western says:
the same as archie from sun****ne families
jenny says:
u meet his teenage grandsons there?
Dario Western says:
archie tried to hit on my then-girlfriend when he was drunk when we
visited
Dario Western says:
no
jenny says:
oh
jenny says:
they are nicde
jenny says:
cols nice too
jenny says:
frined of the family
jenny says:
been to his house and all
Dario Western says:
last time i heard he was living in joyner before he died
jenny says:
yea
jenny says:
nice house
jenny says:
he was wealthy too
Dario Western says:
so i heard
jenny says:
yea
Dario Western says:
wasn't he into property management or something like that?
jenny says:
$20 million i heard from his grandson
jenny says:
btw im dating his grandson
Dario Western says:
ah right
Dario Western says:
there was only one young fellow i met with him and he was called Scott
Dario Western says:
i don't know if he was a friend or a relative
jenny says:
friend
jenny says:
i thnk
jenny says:
how old was he?
Dario Western says:
he was about 11 or 12
Dario Western says:
probably would be about 23 years old now
jenny says:
ok
jenny says:
might be a nephew'
jenny says:
who else thats young that u know thats a ****ist
jenny says:
u go to brisbane forum?
Dario Western says:
not anymore
jenny says:
howcome?
Dario Western says:
it's been taken over by unscrupulous people
jenny says:
oh
jenny says:
i havnt been there since last year
jenny says:
theres some young ppl there
Dario Western says:
i now go to brisbane friendly bares and am working on a christian naturist
group and a young adults group
jenny says:
isnt brisbane friendly bares for gays?
Dario Western says:
no
jenny says:
any females there?
Dario Western says:
anyone can go along, though they are putting restrictions on single fellas
Dario Western says:
yes, a number of them
Dario Western says:
most are part of a couple, we've had a couple of ladies turn up on their
own
jenny says:
attractive ones?
jenny says:
cos i dont wanna be the only one
Dario Western says:
they don't look like models
jenny says:
oh ok
jenny says:
well
Dario Western says:
we had one lady in her late 30's who came with her partner, she was
gorgeous
but didn't want to go back again
jenny says:
oh howcome
Dario Western says:
she didn't feel comfortable with some of the people, but she talks to me
quite a lot
jenny says:
ok
jenny says:
u know anyone who went to sunleisure before?
Dario Western says:
there were two norwegian media students who went there to do a doco on
brisbane naturists which never went to air
Dario Western says:
alister cowper
Dario Western says:
adam spencer from triple j radio
Dario Western says:
a couple called mark & melissa and their young son zach
Dario Western says:
that's about it
jenny says:
oh ok
jenny says:
i think i know alistair
Dario Western says:
didn't you used to go out with him at one stage?
jenny says:
years ago
jenny says:
haha
jenny says:
like 2002
jenny says:
what do u think of him?
Dario Western says:
he came to the forum club a couple of times and have seen him at a few
beach
parties
Dario Western says:
he's ok, a bit on the conservative side and rather shy
jenny says:
ok
jenny says:
what makes ya think he's conservative?
Dario Western says:
his political views
Dario Western says:
he sup****ted Johnny Howard and the Libs
jenny says:
ah wel
jenny says:
what can ya do
Dario Western says:
nothing
jenny says:
u talked to him much?
Dario Western says:
i'm not slavish to any political parties
Dario Western says:
a little bit, he stopped going to the forum club because he thought it was
boring
jenny says:
ohh
jenny says:
he liked sunleisure
Dario Western says:
he felt out of place with all the older people there
jenny says:
where i met him
jenny says:
oh
jenny says:
what did he do?
Dario Western says:
he told me that he liked it there
Dario Western says:
he didn't do anything, it just wasn't his type of scene
jenny says:
ohh
jenny says:
well
jenny says:
i think he got teased once at sunleisure
Dario Western says:
i think he wanted something more interesting than to laze about on the
side
of the pool and do nothing
Dario Western says:
can't say that i blame them for that either
Dario Western says:
what did he get teased about?
jenny says:
cos he had a small willie
Dario Western says:
that should never have happened
Dario Western says:
if i owned the place i'd have pulled up the people responsible and told
them
to behave or they'd get expelled
jenny says:
eh well ya cant be everywhere
jenny says:
u think he's got a small one?
Dario Western says:
with my groups i won't put up with behaviour like that
Dario Western says:
i don't know and i don't care
Dario Western says:
i don't go by external appearances
Dario Western says:
he's alright, but I don't know him very well
jenny says:
oh ok
jenny says:
actually he was teased by my current BF
jenny says:
he was like 15 at the time
Dario Western says:
yeah?
Dario Western says:
jenny says:
yea
jenny says:
and al was 18 i think
jenny says:
u think ross just wanted to get me i think haha
Dario Western says:
who knows?
jenny says:
yea
jenny says:
but ross - wow what a cock
jenny says:
who could blame me
Dario Western says:
if you go for guys on their ***** size alone, then you are in a
relation****p
for the wrong reasons
Dario Western says:
being a ****ist yourself you should know that
jenny says:
well im only human
Dario Western says:
it's not the size that counts it's the way you use it
jenny says:
and ross is hot
jenny says:
and rich
jenny says:
he didnt use it well
Dario Western says:
it doesn't paint you in a good light if all that attracts you to guys is
money and their ***** size
jenny says:
that and other things
jenny says:
well would u rater be rich, 21 and well hung?
jenny says:
honestly
Dario Western says:
i don't care
jenny says:
yea u do
Dario Western says:
if a girl doesn't accept me the way i am, then that's her problem
jenny says:
your not honnest with yourself
Dario Western says:
i've no time for superficial gold-diggers
jenny says:
that why u dont have a GF?
Dario Western says:
i'm not interested in one at the moment
jenny says:
yea right!
jenny says:
well you arent being honeest then
Dario Western says:
i'm being honest with you
<conversation was terminated by her at this point in time>
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