ibshambat@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> Hunter01 wrote:
>>
>> I agree with you completely on the gearing, the courts are so geared
>> against blokes in cases like this it's not funny, and there is very
good
>> reason for a father's lobby group to try to equalise this out (you can
>> blame the churchies for this mess),
>>
>> but the "fathers lobby group" that
>> posts in these forums are a pack of lunatics, I'd hate to see any child
>> put in any of their hands as they do mad **** like trying to justify
why
>> a cowardly **** of a bloke would kill his own children, blaming women
>> for their own dickless pathetic cowardice.
>>
> Why to fathers groups sup****t men convicted of domestic violence?
> It makes sense that if they are sadistic enough to beat their wives
> then surely the children are out of the question, yet these fathers
> lobby groups advocate for this. If it was simply about the rights of
> child sup****t reconising fathers when they say that they are caring
> for the children,
> Then that would be fine, but the child abuse cases? Domestic violence?
> children getting killed out of vengeance? There needs to be a better
> fathers rights representation that purely advocates for rights and
> decent fathers but does not advocate for every junky dad, criminal,
> murderer(there have been cases where children have been required to
> see their dad who killed their mother or sibling in jail) and
> rapist,
> The fathers lobby groups(this includes the shared parenting council)
> also recomend that rapists can block the abortion and go for custody
> against their victim(too bad if the baby turns out to be a girl).
> Until there is better representation, I would be happy to sup****t any
> organisation against the agenda of the fathers lobby groups.
I would agree with you when you describe the fathers lobby groups you're
describing, they all need to be locked up as loons. But good and honest
fathers that do not fit into the lunatic fringe that you describe are
usually on the arse end of family court rulings, this needs to change.
You shouldn't tar good fathers that are getting a raw deal with the same
brush that you'd apply to lunatics that have no idea of morality.
> There needs to be a clear line between the cromanians and the
> neaderthols otherwise we are just going backwards in human
> behaviour.
> I was disgusted to hear the other day of a mens line telling a guy who
> had just beaten his wife that he is a doormat for getting anger
> management counselling.
>
> These father lobby groups and even some mens sup****t services are
> creating and harvesting monsters. In the long run, if their attitudes
> remain, fathers will have no rights at all.
They have very few rights as it is, but they're certainly not being done
any favours by the likes of the "dads rights groups" that tend to post
in usenet, they're not the sort of people that you'd want to give any
access to a child ever.
>> People like that are the worst form of enemy of people like yourself
>> that are presumably good fathers just after a fair goal that is
>> currently totally absent from our family court system.
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