<gonna snip a heap for brevity here, and just address the points you've
responded to>
Swampfox wrote:
> "Hunter01" <hunter01@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>
>> Other than neglecting kids (got none and want none,
>> would conflict with my lifestyle!) I blow the bulk
>> of my income on partying, but I work ****ing hard
>> for that, and reckon that's perfectly within my
>> rights, so bad call to say that those types aren't
>> the types to get jobs,
>
> No it's not.
> I presume you're single and have no direct obligation
> to any children, so that's a different matter
> entirely.
> Suck as much piss as you like so long as you behave
> yourself and there's no harm done except to your
> health.
> Pisspots or junkies who also neglect or mistreat their
> kids are far more likely to be unemployed than the
> average punter.
Like I said, know some couples with kids that still indulge. Cuts into
their indulgence (as it should) as you'll rarely seem them together at a
party unless they got someone to look after the bubs, and finances tend
to be a bit tighter, but in general do a ****ing good job of both work
and bringing up the kids. To say someone that likes their vices is
unlikely to keep a job or bring up kids correctly is just blatantly
wrong, you could equally (and more realistically) say people that work
too hard and/or too long are unlikely to bring up their kids right, or
people that have kids but no vices are unlikely to keep jobs cos the
kids will eat into that. Every situation is unique, there is no be all
and end all.
>> All govts have and always will be buddy, that's the
>> problem. Howard I think realised he was going under
>> and thought he'd try something reactionary for a
>> final sink or swim reaction, it didn't go well for
>> him.
>
> Howard is reactionary by nature.
Don't expect Rudd to be any different. They're both politicians, it's
sort of how it works. Already saw that when he was caught out on not
sending that boat he promised to send after the Jap whalers. Personally
I think he was right to take his time on that, but **** didn't he jump
when caught out, to no effect as he well knew would be the case.
Showman****p and nothing more, no different than the stunts Howard pulled.
>> Nope, neither do I. Treat them like everyone else.
>> Abuse/neglect your kids then lose them, no more of
>> this stolen generation part II stigma. If the
>> community ain't working close it down, like anyone
>> or anywhere else. It ain't rocket science.
>
> And do what with the people?
What do they do with non-Aboriginal children they find being raped,
bashed, neglected??? Like I keep saying, they're not another ****ing
species, they're just other Australians, treat them the same. The system
that kids go into when removed from parents is not ****ing pretty, and
is not far off being a breeding ground for crims unfortunately for those
that don't get placed early on in foster care, but it's a **** of a lot
better than being put on the block for every drunken male from a mile
around to go through.
>> Some of us actually do. Some of us have actually
>> spent a lot of time knocking around with, working
>> with and dealing with them. They're not another
>> species, they're just other people. Some are good
>> people, some are ****s. The biggest ****ing problem
>> is the greenleft mob do effectively want them
>> classified as a seperate species. The elders are
>> sick of this approach, but these ****s know better
>> than the elders... The Nyungar elders in Perth
>> begged for the gloves to be removed some years back,
>> and to be given the ability to discipline their
>> kids, and for the courts to ****ing do something
>> about their s***bags, and they were totally ignored.
>> Last I heard on it is one of the elders had died and
>> the other got headlines saying he'd divorced himself
>> from the Nyungar community, because as far as he was
>> concerned it was now dead and unsaveable, and blamed
>> it entirely on the welfare greenleft **** mentality
>> that had destroyed his people. That makes me sick,
>> but that's the reality of what has happened.... That
>> elder was dead ****ing right, hope he's keeled over
>> and not had to see how even further down the slide
>> they've gone here. Thank **** there's communities
>> out there that have retained their pride and
>> strength, because where-ever the greenleft have
>> become involved their communities have become broken
>> and been destroyed.
>
> You're way too paranoid about the Greenleft.
> Rednecks do just as much harm.
How very true, and if you look over my posts over the years I've spat at
them plenty too. What we're talking about now is purely down to the
greenleft types though.
>> Nothing to sell, stop wasting money on the
>> communities, nothing spent at all on them. Become
>> self-sustaining or give up and move, the same as
>> would happen with anyone else (much like those
>> hippies).
>>
>> I'm sure those hippies managed to get to the nearest
>> dole office to put their forms in, let these guys do
>> the same.
>
> The hippies were in the main white, educated, had
> drivers licences, cars and new the system back to
> front.
> Abos living 1000k from the nearest decent sized town
> are a different matter entirely.
So when the town gets written off use a fund to tell them their rights,
help them move and get them started off. Makes a **** of a lot more
sense than throwing good money after bad to sup****t a town where the run
of the mill day is alcoholism, rape, ba****ng and pedophilia with
absolutely no way to sustain itself.
> Give up and move you say, but move where exactly?
> Are you gonna put them up in your spare room, or is
> the government gonna build 50,000 houses in population
> centres, pay to relocate them then sup****t them
> anyway?
> Not as simple as you seem to think I'm afraid.
I know quite a few bludgers, I dunno about over in the East, but sadly
in the West it's now much easier for a bludger to find public housing
than it is for struggling low income families to find somewhere to live
after having a home ripped out from underneath them. It's pretty ****ed
up if you ask me. With all of the additional benefits you get from our
racist policies that favour Aboriginals I think they'll find it even
easier.
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