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Re: Wasted Energy

by Addinall <addinall@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 24, 2008 at 04:52 AM

On Jun 24, 8:22=A0pm, fasgnadh <fasgn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Wasted Energy
>
> http://tinyurl.com/5z9mmg
>
> =A0 =A0 - The Age 24/6/2008
>
> "Australia should tackle the energy challenge with
> vision and bold leader****p."

Yes.  Nationalise mineral and energy resources.
Ignore OPEC.  Stop ex****ting sweet light crude for
a while.  Don't buy at Singa****e parity price.  Cap
LNG ex****ts at current levels for the period of
existing contracts.  Remove GST from the excise
****tion of petro-chemical sales.  Make the excise
on petro-chemicals transparent in the 'state'
investment of a Thorium fuel cycle.  Make public
trans****t free within 50km of any CBD.  Expand
Uranium mining and recovery, and diminish ex****t.
Shoot anyone that considers a carbon trading scheme.
Likewise anyone that wants to 'bury' CO2 at
a huge cost.  Ignore the disaster  that isn't happening,
'global warming'.

That should do it.  Good start.



>
> =A0 =A0 =A0Bit of a joke in this country.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0Tweedle dumb and Brenda Dumber.
>
> "WHEN a new tide sweeps all before it, you have two choices:
> try to hold your place by swimming backwards against the
> tide, or decide quickly to ride with it so you can make
> the most of it.
>
> This is the third big rise in oil prices in 35 years.
> We should know how to deal with them. We know that
> governments cannot ****eld us from rising oil prices
> without using our own money to do it. And we know
> that governments that level with the public and drive
> adaptation to change can turn it into something positive.
>
> Brendan Nelson has made his choice: he wants us to
> swim backwards against the tide, raiding our savings
> to try to offset the petrol price rises. Kevin Rudd
> is yet to decide, and is being swept away helplessly
> by the tide, without actually heading anywhere.
> Yet this tide is taking us where he will have to
> lead us anyway.
>
> The real problem with the PM's office is simple:
> it needs fewer tactics, more strategy. Rudd and
> his ministers must decide quickly what the big
> changes are they want to make, how they plan to
> make them, then put them into action and tell
> us why. That's leader****p.
>
> It is obvious that one of Labor's big changes will
> have to be tackling climate change =97

8C below 100 year average here in QLD this week.
People in Cairns are wearing jumpers.

> and that it will
> do so by making energy use more expensive.
> Despite this, Rudd campaigned last year on making
> petrol cheaper, has yet to switch tack, and left it
> to his climate change adviser Ross Garnaut to point
> out that higher petrol prices now will reduce the
> pain ahead.
>
> Back in the 1970s, no country was more exposed to
> rising oil prices than Japan. Like China a generation
> later, it relied on cheap oil and coal to power its
> industrial transformation. When oil prices shot up,
> Japan's leaders realised it had to change the way
> it operated, and change fast. And it did.
>
> Oil-fired power stations were rebuilt to run on coal.
> Car-makers such as Toyota made fuel efficiency a priority.
> The Government ran a national campaign to get business
> and households to turn down heaters and air-conditioners.
> Nuclear power spread, and Japan invested heavily to end
> the link between energy use and GDP.
>
> It worked. Today, Japan and Australia have similar
> living standards, yet Australia emits 2=BD times more
> greenhouse gases per head than Japan. In the '70s, Japan
> was not alone in riding the tide. The International
> Energy Agency, little sister of the OECD, says the world
> cut its oil use 10% in response to the price rises of
> 1973 and 1979. Yet a similar price rise between 2004
> and 2006 saw demand grow by 3%.
>
> Why the difference? Nobuo Ta****a, executive director of
> the IEA, points out that in the '70s plenty of oil was
> burnt to generate electricity, and it was not hard to
> switch from that. And demand has ****fted from rich
> countries, where markets rule, to developing countries
> where prices are subsidised =97 so governments, not consumers,
> foot the bill for rising prices, muting the market response.
>
> And in the '70s, governments led. Between 1974 and 1980,
> in the rich countries, government investment in energy R&D doubled in
> volume. One in every nine R&D dollars was spent on energy R&D. This
> time, governments have not lifted their R&D effort, and only one in
> every 30 R&D dollars is spent on future energy sources.
>
> ...
> The enemy now, Ta****a told ministers, is time. To achieve higher
> economic performance, higher energy security and less climate change,
> governments must do three things: "implement, implement, implement".
> Rather than swimming against the tide, like Nelson, Ta****a urged
> ministers "to resist the growing pressure to cut fuel taxes =85 If
> consumers were faced with the reality of current prices, they would be
> able to make more efficient long-term choices."
>
> Today's oil prices are inflated by a bubble of speculation, by wars in
> Iraq and Nigeria, and by OPEC maximising its profits. But take all that
> away, and you still have the reality that oil demand is soaring and
> supply is not. We can swim with the tide or against it.

Dunno what the rest of that was about.

Cheers,
Mark.

>
> ---------
>
> =A0 "Iraq War and the price of petrol" - ABC 23/5/2008
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 "Prime Minister Kevin Rudd said that not invading
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Iraq would have helped keep petrol prices down
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0-- 'It's a factor in the global supply of oil.'"
>
> Of course it is, Iraq has the second largest reserves of oil
> in the world. =A0Even if demand were not rising, which it is,
> ANY disruption to supply will cause prices to go up.
>
> As we have all seen at the petrol pump.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0"There is no question that disruption in any im****tant
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 country in the oil universe is going to have some
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 effect on prices, there is absolutely no doubt about
that=
.."
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 - Vijay Vaitheeswaran, Energy correspondent for
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 the Economist Magazine and author of
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 "Zoom: The Global Race to Fuel the Car of the
Fut=
ure"
>
> "Iraq oil output hits a new high
> =A0 =A0 - =A0 =A0BBC =A026/6/2006,
>
> "Production has risen to 2.5 million barrels per day (bpd)
> =A0 from a steady 2 million bpd during the US-led invasion,
> =A0 Iraq's new oil minister said.
>
> "Before the war, output was around 3 million bpd,
> =A0 peaking at a record of 3.5 million bpd"
>
> So, for four years following Howard and Bush's invasion
> based on falsehoods about WMDs, Iraqi oil production was
> reduced to FIFTY SEVEN PERCENT of it's pre-invasion peak! =A08^o
>
> And now it has only inched upward to 71% of it's pre-invasion peak
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0"Iraq is a mid-level producer, it's not Saudi Arabia,
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 for example, which is a king pin of oil, or Russia,
those
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 countries produce 9-10 million barrels of oil a day,
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 the Iraqi output is maybe 20-30% of that, it's more on
pa=
r
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 with a country like Venezuela, but undoubtedly a
disrupti=
on
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 of the kind which comes from an invasion would of
course,
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 send prices higher"
>
> =A0 You can thank Howard and the Lieberals for those higher petrol
> =A0 prices every time you fill up, and then don't forget the GST
> =A0 they put ON TOP of the excise, ON TOP of the Iraq War Petrol
> =A0 Price Surcharge!!!!!
>
> =A0 The Great GST Tax SWINDLE
>
> =A0http://www.geocities.com/wmds_r_us/tory_tax_swindle.htm
>
> =A0 All courtesy of the most DISASTROUS economic mis-managers
> =A0 in post war Australian government.. the Lieberal party.
>
> =A0 ABC: "So can our Prime Minister get away with saying that
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 if we didn't go into Iraq, petrol prices would be
cheaper=
?"
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0"I think that without this kind of Iraq invasion, this
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 outcome would not have happened."
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0"In this case, it's not just Iraq, if there were to be
hos=
tile
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 actions by the US against Iran, something President
Chene=
y has
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 hinted at, you can bet the prices would go even higher.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 It's a question of the global supply balance, that's the
=
reason
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 why an action like =A0this became so problematic"
>
> ---------
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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 10 Posts in Topic:
Wasted Energy
fasgnadh <fasgnadh@[EM  2008-06-24 21:22:33 
Re: Wasted Energy
Addinall <addinall@[EM  2008-06-24 04:52:36 
Re: Wasted Energy
B J Foster <bjfoster@[  2008-06-25 01:42:22 
Re: Wasted Energy
jg <jg@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-06-25 23:38:02 
Re: Wasted Energy
B J Foster <bjfoster@[  2008-06-26 22:56:14 
Re: Wasted Energy
jg <jg@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-06-26 20:43:05 
Re: Wasted Energy
B J Foster <bjfoster@[  2008-06-27 08:29:01 
Re: Wasted Energy
jg <jg@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-06-26 23:56:44 
Re: Wasted Energy
Addinall <addinall@[EM  2008-06-26 14:26:08 
Re: Wasted Energy
B J Foster <bjfoster@[  2008-06-27 08:34:54 

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