In article <uhc2t1hrb2qv14m4gt2ldqu4u6ufon5mtt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, trudogg says...
>..I don't remember a "shock and awe" in South Africa, nor an armed
I certainly wouldn't have objected to one.
Of course when I was college, one of my ROTC instructors told me that the
South
Africans had put up a tower in the Namib desert remarkably like the one we
put
up in New Mexico in 1945. I was told that the South Africans were told
that if
they didn't take it down by themselves, we'd take it down for them.
>invasion. I believe we were invited to the festivities in Yugoslavia,
>but I could be wrong...it didn't register high on my attention meter
That is COMPLETELY wrong. Nobody invited us into Kosovo except us.
Of course I'm sure we had a cheerful invitation into Kurdistan any time we
cared
to come.
>at the time. But in neither case were we lied to on the level that
>Bush did with Iraq. Maybe I was foolish, but I agreed to the
>intervention in Afghanistan. But Iraq was, and is, totally beyond the
>pale.
I see no evidence that we were lied to at all. Certainly Bush may have
been
wrong about a variety of things, but then so were Bill Clinton, Jacques
Chirac
and Gerhardt Schroeder. The difference is that Bush actually DID
something.
And that's what really pisses people off, isn't it? It's ok to speak
gravely of
the need to "do something" just as long as you actually DON'T.
As to Afghanistan, what would be your alternative? The argument that we
should
have kept trying to "extradite" bin Laden from Afghanistan is as foolish
as a
claim that the proper reaction to Pearl Harbor would have been to try to
"extradite" Tojo, Yamamoto, Genda and ****hida. I find it doubly ironic
that
some who are SO incensed at our having toppled the Taliban for aiding,
abetting
and tolerating bin Laden, CHEERED the BATF and FBI attacks on the Branch
Davidians, when the latter hadn't so much as THREATENED anyone, nevermind
murdered 3,000 people or harbored anyone who did.
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