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Re: Some things make you go ha! ha! ha! ha! ha! ha! ha! ha! ha!

by Knowledge <knowledg_e@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 11, 2008 at 04:14 PM

On Sun, 11 May 2008 19:30:34 +0000 (UTC), "Oooga! Ooooga!"
<chimp@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>On 11 May 2008, Knowledge <knowledg_e@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> posted some
>news:4v9e24tsc96gs132hvlnd4lvrvov18vk85@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
>
>> On Sun, 11 May 2008 17:03:54 GMT, Alan Smithee <alms@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> 
>>>x-no-archive: yes
>>>
>>>Commie Democrat wrote:
>>>> On 09 May 2008, Knowledge <knowledg_e@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> posted some
>>>> news:f4u924l4on8rpf6bnh7ga60oprgs8b4bpr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Many educated white people give credit to the Greeks as the source
>>>>> of knowledge for much of their higher learning. Who did the Greeks
>>>>> learn everything from? When you look at history, you learn that
>>>>> they gave credit to the Black African for everything. 
>>>> 
>>>> Did the Greeks teach all those black boys how to build the **** huts
>>>> they currently live in? 
>>>
>>>
>>>This is both hysterical and scary. Hysterical because it's obvious
>>>rubbish; scary because someone actually believes it.
>>>
>>>NOTE: Climate plays a major factor in development, ever notice that
>>>you only
>>>see tech development in places with inhospitable climates? See below:

>http://www33.brinkster.com/iiiii/inventions/
>
>Black Invention Myths
>Perhaps you've heard the claims: Were it not for the genius and energy
>of African-American inventors, we might find ourselves in a world
>without traffic lights, peanut butter, blood banks, light bulb
>filaments, and a vast number of other things we now take for granted but

could hardly imagine life without. 

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Black Egyptians,Africans, built the pyramids, one of the five greatest
wonders in the world.

A Black man named Knowledge made all of the Caucasians psychos look
like pre-schoolers during the 21st century online when it came to
presenting factual information on a myriad of subjects. No Caucasian
has ever been able to prove him wrong on any topic.

He's the greatest educator in Cyberspace, and probably the universe as
well.

Black people built Amerikkka into the richest country in the world by
being forced to work for free for over two hundred years while White
men raped their men and women, and sat around on their front ****ches
getting high, screwing their sons and daughters.

We are owed reparations and by damn we are going to get them from the
federal government, or else.


Black people invented many wonderful things, but usually the White man
took it away from them and gave them no credit.

Your Brinkster,com site is amusing. It might fool those who are dying
to continue believing that Whites did everything on this planet, but
it won't stand up to scrutiny from experts.

Also here is a first that you can't top.

In Genesis You can read where Abraham, one of GODs chosen men, had a
child by his wifes handmaid, HAGAR the Egyptian. so since Egypt is in
Africa and Egyptians were dark skinned people several thousand years
ago; unlike today, that means many of Abrahams descendants were Black
people.

Egypt was also at a very high cultural level in those days before the
White man came along. There was no Europe back then. White people were
just freakish albinos scattered hither and you all over the continent
of Africa.

A. Who Was She? (read GEN 12:16,20; 16:1-16; 21:8-21; 25:12-18; GAL
        4:24,25).

        1. When Did She Live? In the time of the Patriarchs @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 B.C.

        2. Where Did She Live? GEN 16:1, she had lived in Egypt but
had
           lived in Canaan and other places with Sarah and Abraham
after
           becoming part of their household.

        3. What Was Her Name? Hagar, an Egyptian name meaning "flight"
or
           "fugitive" or "immigrant".

        4. Who Were Her People? GEN 16:1, she was an Egyptian. If she
was
           given to Abraham as a gift (GEN 12:16) from Pharaoh she
would
           probably been one of the more cultured slaves.

           a) Egypt was culturally advanced.

              1) ACT 7:22  "Moses was educated in all the wisdom of
the
                 Egyptians..."

                 a] literature, astronomy, mathematics (arithmetic,
                    geometry, trigonometry), architecture, and music
were
                    subjects for school.

                 b] medical science and dentistry, anatomy, chemistry
and
                    embalming techniques were areas of knowledge.

              2) metallurgy was practiced- they had gold mines and
copper
                 mines, and were familiar with iron and bronze.

                 *this information came from "Manners and Customs of
Bible
                 Lands" by Fred H. Wight, Moody press (1953), pg. 113.

              3) religious beliefs and practices were firmly
established,
                 as were religious festivals.

              4) the arts had been raised to great heights:

                 a] the Old Kingdom (2686-2180) produced the pyramids
and
                    the Sphinx, elaborate royal temples of granite and
                    alabaster, and statuary in the round that was
equal to
                    that of the later Greeks.

                 b] the Middle Kingdom (2180-1551) produced highly
                    developed wisdom literature which stressed right
moral
                    character.

           b) Egypt was stable politically:

              -again united north and south.

              - and massive brick forts guarded her borders (along the
              Sinai) and trade and gold mining interests.

              *this information came from "The Zondervan Pictorial
              Encyclopedia" vol.2, pgs. 236,237.

        5. What Did She Do For A Living? GEN 16:1; she was Sarah's
           maidservant, "****phchah"- a female servant or slave.

           a) Egyptian slaves wore a distinctive haircut and bore a
stamp
              of owner****p from their masters; Babylonian slaves also
were
              tattooed and wore small tablets around the wrist, ankle
or
              neck.

           b) slaves became slaves:

              1) as war captives (NUM 31:26f; DEU 21:10). Thousands of
men,
                 women and children were reduced to servitude as the
result
                 of having been taken prisoner during some military
                 conquest. Near Eastern Codes and O.T. law tried to
protect
                 these people from brutality (DEU 23:15,16).

                 a] A slave taken to become a wife by a Hebrew soldier
was
                    to be treated as a free person (DEU 21:10-14).

                 b] A Hebrew's wife, who was a former slave, could not
be
                    sold back into slavery if he was tired or
displeased
                    with her.

              2) as purchased property:

                 a] slaves could be bought in slave markets (LEV
25:44-46).

                    i] kidnapped foreigners could be sold as slaves.
                       *this brought the death penalty in Israel if
the
                       deed were to be revealed (EXO 21:6; DEU 24:7).

                   ii] family members could be sold as slaves to pay a
debt
                       (EXO 21:7; NEH 5:5; 2KI 4:1).

                  iii] people could be sold into slavery to repay a
theft
                       debt.

                   iv] men and women could sell themselves into
slavery
                       (LEV 25:39; DEU 15:12-17).

                        -- such a slave could be redeemed by his
relatives
                          or himself when he acquired the money.

                        -- by law in Israel such a person was freed
after
                          six years of service with presents of cattle
and
                          fruit (DEU 15:12-14).

                        -- by law in Israel a slave who refused his
freedom
                          in the seventh year (because he did not want
to
                          leave his family or he loved his master)
would
                          become a lifelong slave with an awl pierced
ear to
                          show his status (DEU 15:17).

                        -- in LEV 25 a Hebrew who was a lifelong slave
was to
                          be freed in the year of Jubilee or after
fifty
                          years of servitude, whichever came first.

                 b] the price of slaves varied from as little as three
                    shekels to fifty shekels, according to the age and
***
                    of the slave (LEV 27:3-7).

                    i] a young man would cost twenty shekels (see GEN
37:28
                       for the story of Joseph).

                   ii] the average price was forty shekels (2 MACC
8:11).

                       *Jesus was sold for thirty pieces of silver
(MAT
                       26:15; 27:3).

                 c] children were sold into slavery under terms of a
                    conditional contract:

                    i] young unmarried Hebrew girls who were sold as
slaves
                       by law (EXO 21:11) had to become the wife or
                       concubine of the master or one of his sons when
she
                       matured.

                   ii] freedom was to be granted to a Hebrew woman who
had
                       been sold as a child if no male member of her
                       master's family wanted her as a wife (EXO
21:11).

              3) as gifts from another- non-Hebrew slaves could be
received
                 as gifts (GEN 29:24).

              4) as an inheritance- non-Hebrew slaves could be passed
down
                 from one generation to another (LEV 25:46).

              5) as those born into slavery- the children of slaves
became
                 the master's property; even if the parents or father
was
                 later freed the children remained (EXO 21:4; LEV
25:54).

           c) Hebrew slaves could be freed:

              1) by purchasing their freedom or working out the time
of
                 contract.

              2) by becoming maimed by their masters (EXO 20-23).

              3) by reaching the year of Jubilee (the 50th yr.)

           d) slaves owned by Hebrews were generally domestic servants
or
              field workers who worked along side the master and his
family.

              *this information came from "The Zondervan Pictorial
              Encyclopedia of the Bible", vol.5, pgs. 454-460; and
"Manners
              and Customs of  Bible Lands" by Fred H. Wight, Moody
Press
              (co. 1953), pgs. 290,291.

        6. Was She Married? No; she became Abram's concubine later.

           WHAT IS A CONCUBINE?

           A concubine is a woman who co-habits with a man or
functions as a
           second wife without the legal standing of a full wife.

     B. What Did She Do?

        1. She Bore A Son To Abram.

           a) Hagar was given to Abram (GEN 16:3).

              1) under the Code of Hammurabi, a Babylonian
codification of
                 law, the Nuzi Tablets and old Assyrian marriage
contracts,
                 a woman could give her maid to her husband as a
second
                 wife, a common practice of the time (NIV study notes,
pg.
                 29).

              2) Sarai gave Hagar to Abram to acquire a child through
her
                 for herself (GEN 16:2).

                 a] Sarai recognized the sovereignty of God over her
womb
                    and that He had "prevented her from bearing
children"
                    (GEN 16:2).

                 b] Sarai thought that she could make spiritual things
                    happen through fleshly efforts, i.e. have a child
                    through someone else, and everything would be
blessed of
                    God.

           b) Hagar conceived (GEN 16:4).

              1) Abram accepted her as a wife and had relations with
her.

                 a] he did this to please his wife- because Sarai
asked it
                    of him.

                 b] he did this because his faith was weak- he wanted
to get
                    the "promised child" of GEN 15, which he had
                    unsuccessfully waited ten years to have with Sarai
(GEN
                    16:3; MAL 2:15).

                    GEN 15:4  "Then the word of the LORD came to him:
'...a
                    son coming from your own body will be your heir.'"

              2) Hagar forgot her place (GEN 16:4,5).

                 a] She "despised" Sarai (GEN 16:4,5).

                    i] despised means "to be slight," i.e. to hold one
in
                       contempt or to treat one with light esteem.

                        -- to be barren was a great grief to Hebrew
women and
                          considered a sign of God's disfavor (GEN
30:1; 1SA
                          1:6; LUK 1:36-58).

                        -- as a fertile woman Hagar may well have seen
                          herself as being superior to Sarai, and thus
                          ridiculed her.

                 b] She "wronged" Sarai (GEN 16:5).

                    i] wronged means "to do evil".

                   ii] as the bearer of Abram's heir she may have
thought
                       that she would displace Sarai, and thus treated
her
                       with disrespect.

                       PRO 30:21-23  "Under three things the earth
trembles,
                       under four it cannot bear up: a servant who
becomes
                       king, a fool who is full of food, an unloved
woman
                       who is married, and a maidservant who displaces
her
                       mistress."

                       *Abram's heir would receive a tremendous
inheritance:

                        -- Abram was already extremely wealthy

                          I. he had vast herds and flocks (GEN 13:2,7)

                         II. he had 318 trained home-born
soldier/slaves
                             (GEN 14:14).

                        III. he lived in tents (GEN 12:8; 18:1).

                             A. tents were probably constructed like
modern
                                Bedouin Arab's are: the tent itself
was made
                                of a coarse, heavy cloth woven from
black
                                goat's hair (which protected from
winter
                                winds and were lifted up in summer to
allow
                                air circulation).

                             B. in a large encampment the leader's
tent was
                                the largest- a wealthy man would have
had
                                several tents: one for himself and
guests,
                                one for his wives and female servants,
and
                                one for his animals. All would be
pitched in
                                a circular arrangement around an open
space
                                (this allowed flocks to be protected
within
                                the circle).

                             C. an Oriental tent is, and probably was,
                                comprised of an oblong divided into
two or
                                three rooms by goat hair curtains- the
first
                                apartment is the men's/reception room,
the
                                next the women's apartment, and the
last an
                                apartment for servants or cattle. The
roof
                                is one large piece of goat hair fabric
held
                                up by poles and tied at its ends with
cords
                                fastened to the ground with pegs: the
sides
                                are each separate pieces of cloth.

                             D. inside the tent mats of goat hair,
straw, or
                                rugs cover the ground; at night
carpets or
                                mats are used for bedding. If
possible,
                                camel furniture is used for sitting
upon.
                                Shoes are removed before entering the
tent.

                             E. cooking is done outside the tent,
weather
                                permitting; if not, a hole with a
stone lip
                                serves as a hearth inside the tent-
cooking
                                utensils are placed on the stones over
the
                                fire.

                                *this information came from "Manners
and
                                Customs of Bible Lands" by Fred H.
Wight,
                                Moody Press (1953), pgs.14-17, and
"The
                                Zondervan Pictorial Encyclopedia of
the
                                Bible", vol.5, pg. 676.

                        -- Abram had been promised an inheritance of
the land
                          of Canaan.

              3) Hagar ran from Sarai.

                 a] Sarai sought justice.

                    i] she went to Abram to complain (GEN 16:5).

                       GEN 16:5  "Then Sarai said to Abram, 'You are
                       responsible for the wrong I am suffering. I put
my
                       servant in your arms, and now that she knows
she is
                       pregnant, she despises me. May the LORD judge
between
                       you and me.'"

                   ii] she received a "carte blanche" from Abram to
handle
                       it any way she wanted (GEN 16:6).

                       GEN 16:6  "'Your servant is in your hands,'
Abram
                       said. 'Do with her whatever you think best.'"

                        -- he gave Hagar back to Sarai.

                        -- he reminded her that as a slave Hagar was
hers to
                          do with as she pleased.

                 b] Sarai "treated Hagar harshly" (GEN 16:6).

                    *we are not told what Sarai did to Hagar but
"harshly"
                    means "to afflict":

                    i] she apparently reduced Hagar to her former
slave
                       status, her legal right.

                   ii] she made life hard for Hagar.

                        -- she could have done this with physical or
mental
                          abuse.

                        -- she could have done this through the
tasking she
                          gave Hagar.

                 c] Hagar tried to flee (GEN 16:6).

                    i] she was "on the road to Shur" (GEN 16:7)

                       *a bondwoman was lawfully forbidden to run away
from
                       her mistress.

                        -- she was on the road that ran from Hebron
past
                          Beersheba to Shur (the present Jifar, the
                          north-western ****tion of the desert of
Arabia) and
                          thence on to Egypt, her homeland.

                        -- she was at a spring of water in the
wilderness
                          (GEN 16:7).

                   ii] she was ordered to return to Sarai (GEN 16:9).

                        -- "the angel of the LORD" found her by a
spring of
                          water in the wilderness (GEN 16:7).

                          WHO WAS THE ANGEL OF THE LORD?

                          Scholars would call this angelic visitation
a
                          theophany, a self-manifestation of God
because:

                          -He speaks authoritatively as God

                          -He identifies Himself with God

                          -He claims to exercise the prerogatives of
God

                          In Joshua chapter five another theophany
occurred
                          when Joshua encountered a "man" who called
Himself
                          the captain of the LORD'S host and who
commanded
                          that Joshua remove his sandals "for the
place
                          where you are standing is holy" (JOS 5:15);
this
                          was just as God had commanded Moses to do at
the
                          "burning bush" in Genesis chapter three (GEN
3:5).
                          See also Judges chapter thirteen for another
                          theophany.

                          *After the incarnation of Christ the angel
of the
                          LORD does not appear in scripture- it is
inferred
                          that the angel of the LORD is, in fact, a
                          preincarnate appearance of Jesus, the second
                          member of the Trinity.

                        -- the angel of the LORD commanded that Hagar,
"Go
                          back to your mistress and submit to her."

                          I. "mistress" means "lady", "queen", or
"mistress"

                         II. "submit" means "to be bowed down" or
                             "afflicted".

                        -- the angel of the LORD gave her hope (GEN
                          16:10-12):

                          I. he promised to "greatly multiply her
                             descendants".

                         II. he said she would bear a son called
Ishmael,
                             or" God hears" because God had "given
heed to
                             her affliction".

                             A. he would be "a wild donkey of a man"-
he
                                would be untamable or perhaps would
roam the
                                deserts freely like a wild donkey.

                             B. his hand would be against everyone's
and
                                everyone's would be against him.

                             C. he would live in hostility toward his
                                brothers or to the east of his
brothers.

                                *the enmity between Arabs, the
descendants
                                of Ishmael, and Jews continues to this
day.
                  iii] she recognized that a deity had spoken to her.

                        -- she called Him "You are the God Who sees
me"

                        -- she marveled that she had seen God and
lived
                          (because there was a belief was that no one
could
                          see God and live: see Exodus 33:20 and
Judges
                          13:22).

                        -- the well where she met God was called "Beer
Lahi
                          Roi", or "well of the Living One Who sees
me"

           c) she gave birth to her son (GEN 16:15,16).

              GEN 16:15,16  "So Hagar bore Abram a son, and Abram gave
the
              name Ishmael to the son she had borne. Abram was
eighty-six
              years old when Hagar bore him Ishmael."

              1) Hagar gave birth.

                 a] she had returned to camp in obedience to God's
command
                    and completed her pregnancy term there.

                 b] she probably brought Ishmael forth sitting upon a
"birth
                    stool" (lit. "two stones"), a double seated stool
used
                    by Egyptian women, which utilizes the force of
gravity
                    to enhance the birth process (EXO 1:16). It was
                    customary for a woman in labor to be attended by
                    midwives to assist her delivery (GEN 35:17; EXO
1:19).

              2) Abram named him "Ishmael".

                 a] this presupposes that Hagar told Abram everything
that
                    the angel of the LORD had told her, including the
name
                    of his son, which he obediently used.

                 b] Abram regarded Ishmael as his heir (GEN 17:18),
and
                    regarded him thusly until thirteen years later,
when
                    Abraham was ninety-nine yrs. old and God appeared
to him
                    to announce His conditional covenant to Isaac
through
                    Abraham.

              3) Abraham cir***cised Ishmael when Ishmael was thirteen
years
                 old (GEN 17:23).

                 WHAT IS CIR***CISION?

                 It is the surgical removal of the foreskin of a
male's
                 *****- it signifies total commitment to the Lord****p
of God
                 and member****p in the community of God's people.

                 a] He cir***cised Ishmael to obey God (GEN 17:10-14).

                 b] He cir***cised Ishmael to include him in God's
covenant
                    (GEN 17:14).

                    i] God promised to bless Ishmael and greatly
increase
                       his numbers (GEN 17:20).

                   ii] God promised to make him the father of twelve
rulers
                       and make him into a great nation (GEN 17:20).

                       *some Arab's still observe cir***cision on the
13th
                       birthday of their sons as a ceremonial rite of
                       passage from childhood to adulthood.

        2. She Was Cast Out With Her Son.

           a) Ishmael ridiculed Isaac.

              1) Isaac was weaned (GEN 21:8).

                 a] Hebrew children were weaned at two to three years
of age
                    (if Isaac was two this would have made Ishmael
about
                    sixteen yrs. old).

                 b] Isaac was given a great feast to celebrate the
occasion
                    (GEN 21:9).

                    i] the feast would have had special food:

                        -- the best lambs of the flock and stall-fed
calves
                          would have been slaughtered and cooked.

                        -- special wine was drunk.

                        -- bread would have been baked and served with
olive
                          oil.

                        -- vegetables and fruits would also have been
served.

                        -- milk products would probably have been
available.

                   ii] the feast might have had special entertainment
of
                       dancing and/or music

                       *this information came from "Manners and
Customs of
                       Bible Lands" by Fred H. Wight, Moody Press
(1953),
                       pgs. 44-54,65,66.

              2) Ishmael "was mocking" (lit. "to laugh") (GEN 21:9).

                 GEN 21:9  "But Sarah saw that the son whom Hagar the
                 Egyptian had borne to Abraham was mocking"

                 *Ishmael was scorning Isaac as the heir of Abraham-

                 WHY WOULD HE DO THIS?

                 GAL 4:29  "At that time the son born in the ordinary
way
                 persecuted the son born by the power of the Spirit.
It is
                 the same now."

                 a] Ishmael was persecuting Isaac, the son of the
promise.

                    i] Ishmael is spoken of as being of the Old
Covenant of
                       Law, not grace, and was therefore not saved,
not
                       regenerated, and a slave to sin and to Satan
who
                       persecutes the saints (GAL 4:24-28; JOH 8:44).

                   ii] Ishmael was fulfilling the prophetic word
concerning
                       him, "he will be a wild donkey of a man" and
"his
                       hand will be against his brother".

                 b] Ishmael duplicated Hagar's scornful attitude
toward
                    Sarah in his attitude toward Isaac, the true heir.

                    GEN 22:2  "Take your son, your only son, Isaac,
whom you
                    love..."

                    *Ishmael should have accepted the will of God as
Eliezer
                    of Damascus did when he lost Abram's inheritance
to
                    Ishmael and Isaac (GEN 15:2; chap. 24).

           b) Sarah requested that Hagar and Ishmael be expelled (GEN
              21:10).

              GEN 21:10  "...and she said to Abraham, 'Get rid of that
slave
              woman and her son, for that slave woman's son will never
share
              in the inheritance with my son Isaac.'"

              WHY WOULD SARAH REQUEST SUCH AN ACTION?

              1) maternal jealousy may have precipitated this
outburst.

              2) unresolved resentment about Hagar may have moved
Sarah to
                 use this incident as an op****tunity to rid herself of
her
                 rival.

              3) prompting by the Holy Spirit may have moved Sarah to
remove
                 Hagar and Ishmael from Abraham and Isaac; as John the
                 Baptist said of himself and Christ, "He must become
                 greater; I must become less" (JOH 3:30). In order for
God
                 to deal with Abraham and Isaac as He wished Ishmael
and
                 Hagar had to be put out of the way.

           c) Abraham sent Hagar and Ishmael away (GEN 21:11-14).

              1) Abraham was distressed (lit. "to be bad" i.e.
grieved) (GEN
                 21:11).

                 a] Abraham was concerned for his son.

                    i] Ishmael was his son, whom he loved, and it
grieved
                       Abraham to think of losing him.

                   ii] Ishmael had been promised prosperity and
blessing and
                       banishment did not seem to fit that.

                 b] Abraham was concerned for legal custom- a man was
                    forbidden from arbitrarily sending away a
concubine and
                    her son (from "The NIV Study Bible" notes, pg.
36).

              2) Abraham was reassured (GEN 21:12,13).

                 a] God spoke to Abraham.

                    i] He told Abraham to "listen to whatever Sarah
tells
                       you" (GEN 21:12).

                   ii] He reminded Abraham that it was to be through
Isaac
                       that the covenant promises would be fulfilled.

                  iii] He assured Abraham that He would indeed bless
                       Ishmael, because Ishmael was Abraham's son.

                        -- that meant that Ishmael would surely
survive in
                          the desert.

                        -- that meant that God remain faithful to His
                          promises.

                 b] Abraham complied with Sarah's request (GEN 21:14).

                    i] he made preparations for them:

                        -- he gathered some food and a skin of water.

                        -- he set the supplies on Hagar's shoulders.

                   ii] he sent them off early in the morning.

                       *this means that he promptly obeyed God's
command,
                       but also that he showed them compassion because
they
                       could travel in the cool of the day.

              3) they prospered in the desert (GEN 21:14-21).

                 a] God protected them in the wilderness of Beersheba
                    (the wilderness of Beersheba is located in the
Negev of
                    Israel).

                    i] He knew of their needs (GEN 21:17-19).

                        -- they had wandered in the desert until their
water
                          was gone (GEN 21:14,15).

                        -- they were weeping and waiting to die (GEN
                          21:16,17)

                          I. Hagar had put her son under the shelter
of a
                             shade bush when he could travel no
farther (GEN
                             21:15).

                         II. Hagar could not bear to abandon her son,
nor
                             could she bear to be near him to watch
him die,
                             so she moved to a place opposite him to
wait
                             (GEN 21:16).

                             A. the place was "about a bow shot away"
or as
                                far as archers put their targets away
from
                                them.

                             B. the weeping she did means "to weep, to
                                bewail, to sob".

                                WHAT SHOULD SHE HAVE BEEN DOING?

                                A WOMAN OF FAITH WOULD HAVE BEEN
PRAYING TO
                                GOD AND ASKING FOR HIS INTERVENTION.

                                *It was very selfish of Hagar to have
                                separated herself from her son because
she
                                thought, "I cannot watch the boy die"
(GEN
                                21:16). She was thinking of her needs,
not
                                her sons'- Ishmael would not have
wanted to
                                have died alone.

                        -- God heard the boy crying (not Hagar)

                          *WHY DO YOU THINK THE BOY WAS CRYING?

                          I. the angel of God spoke to Hagar (GEN
21:17,18).


                             A. he spoke from heaven (in GEN 22:11 the
angel
                                of the LORD spoke to Abraham from
heaven).

                             B. he spoke words of reassurance:

                                GEN 21:17  "God heard the boy crying,
and
                                the angel of God called to Hagar from
heaven
                                and said to her, 'What is the matter,
Hagar?
                                Do not be afraid; God has heard the
boy
                                crying as he lies there.'"

                         II. the angel ordered her to "lift the boy up
and
                             take him by the hand, for I will make him
into
                             a great nation" (GEN 21:18).

                             A. she was ordered to continue to care
for
                                Ishmael.

                             B. she was given assurance that Ishmael
would
                                survive and prosper.

                   ii] God showed Hagar a well of water (GEN 21:19).

                       GEN 21:19  "Then God opened her eyes and she
saw a
                       well of water. So she went and filled the skin
with
                       water and gave the boy a drink."

                        -- He "opened up her eyes" so that she could
see the
                          well that was there.

                        -- she filled the water skin with water and
                          ministered to Ishmael.

                 b] God was with Ishmael for Abraham's sake.

                    GEN 21:20  "God was with the boy as he grew up. He
lived
                    in the desert and became an archer."

                    i] they continued to live in the desert.

                   ii] Ishmael became an archer (lit. "to become much
                       bowman").

                        -- bows had developed into weapons which were
made of
                          glued layers of animal hide and thin layers
of
                          wood with tendons and horns of animals which
would
                          pull to 100 lbs. and shoot an arrow through
most
                          armor.

                        -- a bowman developed his skills through
practice
                          from childhood with stronger bows at longer
and
                          longer distances until he was proficient.

                          *Esau was also a bowman, hunting game with
his bow
                          (GEN 25:27, 27:3).

                          * this information came from "The Zondervan
                          Pictorial Encyclopedia of the Bible", vol.1,
pgs.
                          286, 318.

                 c] Hagar got a wife for him from Egypt

                    GEN 21:21  "While he was living in the Desert of
Paran,
                    his mother got a wife for him from Egypt."

                    WHY?

                    i] they lived in the wilderness of Paran near
Egypt:

                        -- this is the large desert that stretches
along the
                          southern border of Canaan and along the
frontier
                          of Egypt, called et-Tih today.

                        -- the northern edge of the wilderness is
Beersheba,
                          the southern part is near the mountains of
Horeb,
                          the eastern is by the desert of Shur, and
the
                          western is the fringes of the Arabah.

                          *this information came from "the Commentary
on the
                          Old Testament" by Keil-Delitszch, vol.1,
pgs.
                          245,246.

                   ii] Hagar was Egyptian.

                        -- she was rooted in Egypt: she always wanted
to
                          return to Egypt when faced with a need or
crisis.

                        -- her heart had not been touched to value
godly
                          things or to seek a believing wife for
Ishmael.

                 d] Ishmael headed a family.

                    i] he had sons- twelve sons:

                       GEN 25:13-16  "These are the names of the sons
of
                       Ishmael, listed in the order of their birth:
Nebaioth
                       the firstborn of Ishmael, Kedar, Adbeel,
Mibsam,
                       Mishma, Dumah, Massa, Hadad, Tema, Jetur,
Naphish and
                       Kedemah. These were the sons of Ishmael, and
these
                       are the names of the twelve tribal rulers
according
                       to their settlements and camps."

                   ii] he had daughters:

                        -- Mahalath (GEN 28:9).

                        -- Basemath (GEN 36:3).

                 e] Ishmael remained a son of Abraham.

                    i] Ishmael received gifts from Abraham before
Abraham's
                       death (these were given in lieu of an
inheritance GEN
                       25:6).

                   ii] Ishmael buried his father with Isaac (GEN
25:9).

                       *Although Ishmael kept his ties to Abraham he
never
                       came under the umbrella of the covenant. As
Esau was
                       later to be a godless man, outside of the
blessings
                       of the covenant though he was a son of Isaac,
so
                       Ishmael was outside of the covenant, though he
was a
                       son of Abraham. (See also MAT 3:9).

                       GAL 3:7  "Understand, then, that those who
believe
                       are children of Abraham."

                       GAL 3:9  "So those who have faith are blessed
along
                       with Abraham, the man of faith."

                       *Hagar was never considered the wife of
Abraham,
                       though she bore his son; Sarah was his wife
alone,
                       and it was she and her son who were included in
God's
                       covenant to Abraham. Hagar could only raise a
child
                       lost under the Law because she herself was
outside of
                       the covenant, spiritually insensitive to the
things
                       of God. Though she encountered God twice the
                       Scriptures do not say that she was converted by
those
                       experiences. Every time she faced a crisis in
her
                       life she "tried to go back to Egypt" even as
the
                       Israelites would try to do in the Exodus when
they
                       rejected God (EXO 16:3; NUM 11:5,18).

     C. What Can We Learn From Her?

        1. A person can miss salvation though he or she be constantly
in
           the presence of a saved person or family, or even have
           personally encountered God if his or her heart is hard and
loves
           sin. (See Judas in the Gospels or the rich young ruler of
MRK
           10:17.)

        2. Salvation cannot be ascribed to us without our repentance,
faith
           and submission to the lord****p of God through Christ.

        3. An unsaved person walks by the flesh and can only teach the
           things of the flesh to others (1CO 2:14).

        4. God keeps His promises: He kept His promises to Abraham and
He
           will keep His to us.

 III. What Fruits of the Spirit Do We See in Her? None.

  IV. Memory Verses: GAL 3:26  "You are all sons of God through faith
in
     Christ Jesus"

     GAL 3:29  "If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed,
and
     heirs according to the promise." 






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