On Jun 21, 8:25=A0pm, jamiil <jalqa...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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>
> Talmud Permits Child-Adult ***
> Talmud law permits ***ual intercourse between children and adults.
> This
> doctrine is contained in a number of Mishnahs. Before we examine them,
> however, it is necessary that the reader be familiar with the word
> kethubah.
>
> According to the Soncino Talmud Glossary:
>
> =A0 KETHUBAH (Lit., 'a written [do***ent]'); (a) a wife's marriage
> settlement
> which she is entitled to recover on her being divorced or on the death
> of
> her husband. The minimum settlement for a virgin is two hundred zuz,
> and for
> a widow remarrying one hundred zuz; (b) the marriage contract
> specifying the
> mutual obligations between husband and wife and containing the amount
> of the
> endowment and any other special financial obligations assumed by the
> husband.
> - Babylonian Talmud, Soncino Talmud Glossary
>
> Zuz is a unit of currency. We see, then, that a dollar (or zuz) value
> is put
> on virginity.
>
> Now let's look at a Mishnah from Kethuboth 11a:
>
> =A0 MISHNAH. WHEN A GROWN-UP MAN (7) HAS HAD ***UAL INTERCOURSE WITH (8)
> A
> LITTLE GIRL, (9) OR WHEN A SMALL BOY (10) HAS INTERCOURSE WITH A GROWN-
> UP
> WOMAN, OR [WHEN A GIRL WAS ACCIDENTALLY] INJURED BY A PIECE OF WOOD
> (11) -
> [IN ALL THESE CASES] THEIR KETHUBAH IS TWO HUNDRED [ZUZ] .
> - Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Kethuboth 11a
> Soncino 1961 Edition, page 57
>
> The translator, Rabbi Dr. Samuel Daiches, amplifies the text with
> footnotes:
>
> =A0 =A0 7.. A man who was of age.
> =A0 =A0 8.. Lit., 'who came on'.
> =A0 =A0 9.. Less than three years old.
> =A0 =A0 10.. Less than nine years of age.
> =A0 =A0 11.. Lit., 'One who was injured by wood', as a result of which
sh=
e
> injured the hymen.
> - Rabbi Dr. Daiches
>
> Let's review the above-cited Mishnah: "When a grown-up man has had
> ***ual
> intercourse with a little girl, or when a small boy has intercourse
> with a
> grown-up woman ." It is obvious that *** activity between a grown man
> and a
> little girl, and between a grown woman and a little boy, is a part of
> the
> woof and the warp of everyday Talmud life; such relation****ps, in the
> eyes
> of the Sages, are unremarkable. There is no prohibition on ***ual
> activity
> between adults and young children - it is simply regulated. Recall the
> words
> of the Very Reverend the Chief Rabbi of the British Empire the late
> Dr.
> Joseph Herman Hertz:
>
> =A0 Religion in the Talmud attempts to penetrate the whole of human life
> with
> the sense of law and right. Nothing human is in its eyes mean or
> trivial;
> everything is regulated and sanctified by religion. Religious precept
> and
> duty accompany man from his earliest years to the grave and beyond it.
> They
> guide his desires and actions at every moment.
> - Rabbi Dr. Hertz (38)
>
> Thus, if the Talmud permits girls three years old and younger to be
> ***ually
> used by adults, that is the law. The concern of the Sages is to ensure
> that
> the adult is not, technically speaking, in violation of any of the
> rules.
>
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> --
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>
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> "But these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them,
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>
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