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Re: Zionism, capitalism, socialism, communism, etc.

by "Alexandria" <Alexandria@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Nov 14, 2007 at 07:19 PM

The zionists practice apartheid.  They had chased away millions
of Palestinians and had im****ted millions of Jews.


"Zomi" <zomi@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:coGdncqGcrZMiafanZ2dnUVZ_tWtnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Zionism, capitalism, socialism, communism, etc.
>
> By Zomi
>
> Zionism, capitalism, socialism, communism, etc. are not forms of
government
> and therefore have nothing to do with democracy or totalitarianism.
>
> Zionism is an international political movement that sup****ts a homeland
for
> the Jewish People in the Land of Israel. It is not a democratic or
> totalitarian movement. Some capitalist countries practise/practised
> democracy (United States, United Kingdom, France, Germany, Italy, Japan,
> etc.) while other capitalist countries practise/practised
totalitarianism
> (Germany, Italy and Japan before 1945; Spain before 1975). Many
socialist
> countries practise/practised democracy (United Kingdom when Labor Pary
is in
> power; Israel when Labor Party is in power; Sweden, Norway, etc.).
> Unfortunately, all communist countries practise/practised
totalitarianism,
> although they do/did not have to.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alexandria" <Alexandria@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Newsgroups:
>
soc.culture.burma,soc.culture.asean,soc.culture.china,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.singa****e
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 12:00 AM
> Subject: Re: Republic, Monarchy, Parliamentary System, Presidential
System,
> etc.
>
> The zionists practice apartheid.  They had chased away millions
> of Palestinians and had im****ted millions of Jews.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Zomi" <zomi@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Newsgroups:
>
soc.culture.burma,soc.culture.asean,soc.culture.china,soc.culture.india,soc.rights.human,soc.culture
..usa,soc.culture.thai,soc.culture.singa****e,soc.culture.malaysia
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 11:32 PM
> Subject: Republic, Monarchy, Parliamentary System, Presidential System,
etc.
>
> Republic, Monarchy, Parliamentary System, Presidential System, etc.
>
> By Zomi
>
> I do not fully undertand what you say, but if you think that I say that
the
> Democratic Party is a totalitarian state and the Republican Party is a
> democratic state, then you misunderstand what I say. I do not say that
the
> Democratic Party of the US is a totalitarian state and I do not say,
either,
> that the Republican Party is a democratic state. In actuality, I did not
> mention those two parties at all. Please read my posting again.  A
political
> party is not a state. The SPDC is not a state.
>
> What I say is that Israel is a state that practises democracy and Burma
is a
> state that practises totalitarianism. Both are republics.
>
> The form of government practised by Israel is a parliamentary system, in
> which the parliament elects the prime minister (who is the most
im****tant
> person) and the president (who is not the most im****tant person). That
kind
> of form of government was practised by Burma during 1948-1962. That kind
of
> form of government is modeled upon that of the United Kingdom, and is
> practised by India, Malaysia, Singa****e, Australia, New Zealand, Japan,
> Canada, etc. Governor-General or King (Queen)  is substituted for
President
> in United Kingdom, Malaysia, Australia, New Zealnd, Japan and Canada.
>
> The form of government practised by the United States is a presidential
> system, in which the parliament does not elect the presiedent (who is
the
> most im****tant person), and there is a clear demarcation of
responsibilities
> between the legislative and executive branches of the government. There
is
> no prime minister.
>
> The form of government practised by Burma (1962- up to now) is a mixture
of
> presidential system and parliamentary system. In this mixed system, the
> president is the most im****tant person. There is also a prime minister
but
> he is not the most im****tant person. That kind of form of government is
> practised by France and now by the Russian Federation. The notable
exception
> is that in Burma there is no parliament (1988- up to now).
>
> A republic is not necessarily a democratic state. A republic is a state
> where there is no monarchy. And a kingdom (monarchy) can be a democratic
> state, as evidenced in the United Kingdom, Japan, Sweden, Norway,
Denmark,
> the Netherlands, etc. Many monarchies are totalitarian (Saudi Arabia,
> Kuwait, Dubai, Brunei, etc.). Many republics are democratic (United
States,
> Mexico, India, Israel, etc.) while many other republics are totalitarian
> (Pakistan, Burma, China, North Korea, Cuba, etc.).
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "WebmasterSanta" <WebmasterSanta@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Newsgroups:
> soc.culture.burma,soc.culture.asean,soc.culture.china,soc.rights.human
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 11:48 AM
> Subject: Re: One of the Differences Between a Democratic State and a
> Totalitarian State
>
> One of the Differences between a Democratic State and a Totalitarian
> State
>
> What you are saying that the Democratic Party (Clinton, Obama, Kerry,
> Ted Kennedy) is a Totalitarian State and the Republican Party (Senator
> Ron Paul Tom Tancredo: Colorado Congressman) is a Democratic State but
> Democratic State really is a Republic not a democracy. The word
> Democracy for the United States is mis-worded is really meant to say
> United States government is in the form of the Republic form of
> government
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Zomi" <zomi@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Newsgroups:
>
soc.culture.burma,soc.culture.asean,soc.culture.china,soc.culture.india,soc.rights.human,soc.culture
..usa,soc.culture.thai,soc.culture.singa****e,soc.culture.malaysia
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 5:36 AM
> Subject: One of the Differences Between a Democratic State and a
> Totalitarian State
>
>
> One of the Differences Between a Democratic State and a Totalitarian
State
>
> By Zomi
>
> In a democratic state, there is what is called the RULE of law. Nobody
is
> above the law.
>
> In a totalitarian state, there is no RULE of law. The law is whatever
> proceeds out of the mouth of the dictator. The dictator is ABOVE the
law.
>
> Compare these two states:
>
> In democratic Israel, where parliamentary system (similar to the United
> Kingdom, India, Thailand, Singa****e and Malaysia) is practised, the
prime
> minister (who is the head of government) can be brought to a court of
law
> and even arrested and imprisoned if he is guilty of a crime. The prime
> minister is the most im****tant man in a parliamentary system. The
president
> (who is the head of state) has only a nominal, ceremonial power.
>
> In totalitarian Burma, where presidential system mixed with
parliamentary
> system (similar to France and Russia) is practised (the US has a pure
> presidential system), the president cannot be brought to a court of law,
> cannot be arrested and cannot be imprisoned, even though he is gulity of
an
> uncountable number of crimes. The president (who is the head of state)
is
> the most im****tant man in a presidential-parliamentary system. The prime
> minister (who is the head of government)  has only a nominal power.
>
> (In the pure presidential system, they have no prime minister. The
president
> is both the head of state and the head of government.)
>
> The NLD once sought to sue Maung Khin Nyunt. The Central Court, which is
not
> independent, did not even accept the suit. It is unthinkable to sue
Maung
> Than Shwe, even when he has been guilty of myriads of crimes.
>
> =====
>
> November 12, 2007
>
> Israeli Police Raid Offices for Evidence on Olmert
>
> By ISABEL KERSHNER
>
> JERUSALEM, Nov. 11 - About 100 police investigators from Israel's
National
> Fraud Unit conducted unannounced searches in more than 20 locations
around
> the country on Sunday, seeking materials connected with criminal
> investigations under way against Prime Minister Ehud Olmert.
>
> A police spokesman, Micky Rosenfeld, said the surprise raids were
standard
> practice, to prevent any removal of data before the police arrive. The
> searches related to an investigation concerning Mr. Olmert's purchase of
a
> Jerusalem apartment, and other investigations of his activities when he
was
> trade and industry minister, Mr. Rosenfeld said. They lasted about eight
> hours and affected government and private offices, including the
Jerusalem
> City Hall, the office of the chief of the Postal Authority, the Ministry
of
> Trade and Industry and at least one law firm.
>
> In an unrelated episode, the leader of the Palestinian team working with
> Israelis to prepare for an international meeting on Middle East peace
called
> off a meeting with his Israeli counterparts on Sunday evening after
being
> stuck at an Israeli checkpoint for 20 minutes, an aide said.
>
> The negotiator, Ahmed Qurei, a former Palestinian prime minister, was on
his
> way from the West Bank town of Abu Dis, where he lives, to meet with
> Israel's
> foreign minister, Tzipi Livni, and other members of the Israeli and
> Palestinian working groups in Jerusalem. The teams are charged with
drafting
> a joint statement for the meeting expected to take place in Annapolis,
Md.,
> later this month.
>
> Mr. Qurei waited in a car at a border police checkpoint on the edge of
> Jerusalem while the guards checked with their superiors to determine if
they
> should let him through, his aide said. He added that Mr. Qurei had
> permission to enter Jerusalem and that the Israelis had been informed
that
> he was coming.
>
> A spokesman for the Jerusalem police said Sunday that Mr. Qurei had
arrived
> "without coordination," and that "it took a short while to get
permission
> for him to enter," adding that the permission came through.
>
> The Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman, Mark Regev, said that Ms. Livni
had
> spoken to Mr. Qurei by phone and told him that the events would be
examined.
> "We regret the fact that the meeting was canceled," Mr. Regev said.
"There
> are very im****tant matters on the table, and nothing will be solved by
not
> talking."
>
> Abu Dis borders on Jerusalem but is separated from it by a 25-foot-high
> concrete wall, part of the West Bank security barrier that Israel says
is
> necessary to prevent suicide bombers. Mr. Qurei has complained about
having
> to take a circuitous route to Jerusalem, through checkpoints, which
turns
> what used to be a 15-minute journey into one of more than an hour. Mr.
> Qurei's
> aide said he expected that the issue would be resolved.
>
> Hours earlier, the Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas, hailed the
> Annapolis gathering as a "historic op****tunity to open a new era" in the
> history of Middle East peace. He was speaking at a rally in Ramallah
> attended by thousands of Palestinians to mark the third anniversary of
the
> death of Yasir Arafat, the longtime Palestinian leader.
>
> Mr. Abbas, of Fatah, also denounced the takeover of Gaza by the Islamist
> group Hamas, and called on Hamas to retreat from its "black coup."
Borrowing
> phrases from the Koran, he appealed to God to set Ismail Haniya, the
Hamas
> leader in Gaza, back on the rightly guided path, to cheers from the
crowd.
>
> A Fatah spokesman in Gaza said the Hamas police had confiscated
thousands of
> hats, scarves and Arafat posters meant for a memorial rally to be held
in
> Gaza City on Monday. The Hamas police confirmed the raid, saying that
the
> materials had been allowed to pass through a crossing from Israel into
Gaza
> while Israel restricts the entry of food and fuel.
>
> In the Israel searches by the Fraud Unit, plainclothes investigators
carried
> off cardboard boxes filled with do***ents and other materials. Mr.
> Rosenfeld, the police spokesman, said the searches related to an
> investigation concerning Mr. Olmert's purchase of a Jerusalem apartment,
and
> two others focusing on his activities during his term as trade and
industry
> minister, which ended in 2006.
>
> Mr. Olmert, a former mayor of Jerusalem, is suspected of having
purchased
> the apartment at a significant discount, possibly in return for helping
the
> contractors obtain special building permits from the city. Mr. Olmert
has
> denied all wrongdoing. His office had no specific comment on Sunday's
raids.
>
> The searches were not connected with a police investigation into Mr.
> Olmert's
> role in the sale of a bank, Mr. Rosenfeld said.
>
>
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/12/world/middleeast/12mideast.html?ref=todayspaper
>
>
 




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