On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 18:41:23 +0200, "Jakub A. Krzewicki"
<ebredel@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>wtorek, 29 kwietnia 2008 16:13. carbon entity 'Raymond' <niday@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>contaminated talk.politics.tibet with the following letter:
>
>
>> I don't care. Buddhism does not practice ritual sacrifice and dark
>> magic. Tibetan Lamaism is filled with ritual sacrifice and dark magic.
>> By practicing such superstitious rituals, it denies itself to be
>> Buddhism of any kind.
>
>You are afraid of magic, aren't you? I am not,
That's why you are a fool. Enough is said. Magic is bad enough. Dark
magic is the practice of the Devil.
In fact I saw a film with a
>Tibetan yajna --- "human sacrifice" --- naturally in effigie. Those
>sacrifices are a part of Tibetan practice indeed, but true sacrifices
were
>eradicated by the Guru Rinpoche, Padmasambhava. Even White "Yungdrug" Bon
>(Svastika Bon) ceased to practice it and became de facto the fifth school
>of Buddhism in Tibet. Only a marginal Himalayan school of Black Bon
>outlawed by Tibetan Lamas' government were alleged to practise some
hidden
>real human sacrifices. The fact that Lamas sometimes used human parts as
>materials to their ritual equipment and s****adic existent of cannibalism
>among the "graveyard-wandering yogis" can be explained by the specific
>Tibetan burial ritual, you know it really well.
>
>> Appearance is deceiving. You have to look into exactly what they
>> practice in order to see their true evil face.
>
>I know their practice from the books of some 20-th and 21-th century
>Tibetologists like Mircea Eliade, Ireneusz Kania, Jacek Sieradzan and
>Alexander Berzin, and of course from the practice ministered by Polish
>lamas in Polish gompas. There is no such things in practice as you
>describe.
People do try the best they can to justify evil, but evil is still
evil no matter what they say.
>
>> Just because some radical Muslims are evil, does not justify Lamaism
>> to be good. Just because some Lamas appear peaceful to you, doesn't
>> mean they do not practice the most evil cult religion on the face of
>> earth.
>
>Give me some facts
The facts are for you to see with your own eyes. If you have no
interest in seeing it, no one can convince you what you don't want to
be convinced. Today's Lamas have been largely stripped their past
political power, but their evil practices are still quite visible for
all eyes to see. Your problem is you are looking at something you have
no background knowledge of with an naive western mind expecting to see
angels in the dark Tibetan den.
another than the notorious prpoaganda book of radical
>Hinayanists Mariana and Herbert R鰐tgen aka "Victor & Victoria
Trimondi".
>Although durig my Mohammedan episode, I met some radical Muslims who told
>me openly that one of the reasons of initiating both their Dawah in
Europe
>and coordinated cooperation with PRC is a reaction for the spread of
>Buddhism in Europe and they are simply afraid of be surrounded. For whom,
I
>wondered. How many divisions has Dalai Lama??? They are totally armless,
>therefore battle and subsequent massacre of Baghdad 1258 Christian Era,
>described so lively on the official website of Geir Smith, is rather
>unlikely to repeat in our times.
>
>> I see you are quite a superstitious fool yourself. No wonder you are
>> drawn to those evil practices.
>
>I'm not superstitious.
You said you believe magic. That is superstition in itself.
No conscuious right hand occultist actually is.
>I wouldn't interact in the spiritual world if they were afraid of karmic
>consequences, so called demons or some bull**** like that which fully
>affects only some unenlightened entities. The spiritual forces are just
>subsequent forces of nature after electricity, magnetism, atomic energy
or
>gravity which properly used can be fruitful, only some Semitic religions
>have some strange moral objections taken from their mythology.
>
>Nor were superstitious the authorities of the Soviet Union in 1970s and
>1980s who merged some practices of Lamaism with the education of their
>special KGB forces or with the official Soviet medicine like famous
>hypnotist Anatoly Kashpirovsky. You cannot suspect the largest atheist
>country of the world which ever existed for some superstition.
>
>> No one is demonizing them. I'm merely calling a spade a spade.
>
>Show me the spade. I don't believe what I only heard or read. I believe
only
>what I seen personallly or on the documental screen. If Tibetan schools
are
>so evil, why nobody in Europe, even R鰐tgens, made the movie like Geert
>Wilders.
Since I do not practice evil, I can not show you evil. Evil is for you
to see with your own eyes. I can only guide you and help you, but it
is your own decision to make whether what you see is evil or not.
>
>> In this
>> modern days, it is popular to pretend to be a peaceful Buddhist when
>> in fact what they practice behind their closed doors has nothing to do
>> with Buddhism at all.
>
>With Buddhism or with your book image of Buddhism?
>BTW. Have you ever read a comic "The Horde"?
If you really know Buddhism, you wouldn't ask such question.
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