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Re: Beijing 'to talk to Dalai aides'

by "Jakub A. Krzewicki" <ebredel@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 1, 2008 at 11:30 PM

czwartek, 1 maja 2008 08:28. carbon entity 'Raymond' <niday@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
contaminated talk.politics.tibet with the following letter:

> That's why you are a fool. Enough is said. Magic is bad enough. Dark
> magic is the practice of the Devil.

Magic is white or dark due to it's purpose. Even the most controversial
practices.

For example when you bind a voodoo doll with some man to make a ritual of
destruction in effigie --- it's bad. But when you bind it with your own
ego
it's called chod and it's destruction of all evils of your ego due feeding
hungry spirits wit your bad mental products --- it's good, because it's
purifying you from evil by meditation.

> People do try the best they can to justify evil, but evil is still
> evil no matter what they say.

I agree. But to be evil you must have or conscious intentions, or some
recklessness which leads to hurting a concrete living entity. When you
have
intentions to kill somebody or rape them or rob them physically,
emotionally or intelectually, it's evil, but if you have intentions to
heal
someone it's not. You know, that in some grave diseases the doctors must
give the patients medicines which otherwise are dangerous toxins.

> The facts are for you to see with your own eyes. If you have no
> interest in seeing it, no one can convince you what you don't want to
> be convinced. Today's Lamas have been largely stripped their past
> political power, but their evil practices are still quite visible for
> all eyes to see. Your problem is you are looking at something you have
> no background knowledge of with an naive western mind expecting to see
> angels in the dark Tibetan den.

I know only that some fanatic Christians or Jews in the USA have strong
objections about the practice of mandalas which are used by lamas to
exorcize the local spirits and replace them by some of their own stuff.
Yes, I've raead about it. Because I'm not a Christian or a Jew I don't
attribute to this technical activity any moral value a priori. Nor evil,
nor good --- as a Buddhist I will be able to atribute a moral value to it
not sooner than it bears it's permanent karmic fruits. 

> You said you believe magic. That is superstition in itself.

No, it's not. I don't mean obviously than some folklorist mockery taken by
people fo magic exist.

But true Magic, or the Directed Will is actually a fifth fundamental force
which mainstream of physics does not take into consideration because it
can
not be directly detected by the instruments used at universities. But they
can't detect also gravitational wawes despite the mathematic General
Relativity theory tells us they exist. There is also a strictly
mathematical theory which tells us that state of mind of observer can
influence on the quantum decoherence of an event --- it's called the
Bohmian interpretation of quantum theory. You can't blame the contem****ary
physicists for superstition.
 
> Since I do not practice evil, I can not show you evil. Evil is for you
> to see with your own eyes. I can only guide you and help you, but it
> is your own decision to make whether what you see is evil or not.

I can show you evil even in the mathematics which on the field of physics
created the General Relativity theory and in consequence Hiro****ma. Is it
a
reason we should stop developing our knowledge of math or not solving the
diary problems with practicing the discipline of math?

> If you really know Buddhism, you wouldn't ask such question.

Who do you consider me? I know that Buddhism cathegorically discourages
its
practitioners to use the acquired spiritual powers except in special
cir***stances --- it's in order to limit the spiritual dangers like those
of pride and illusion. The point is, as I guess in the divergence of your
definition of those special cir***stanmces and the lamas' definition which
you suggest it's so broad that the evoked forces went out of control. I
think that you lack some bravery for example of 84 Mahasiddhas, the
founders of Vajrayana. Fearlesness is one of the fundamental perfections
of
Vajrayana if you know.

-- 
tois egregorosin hena kai koinon kosmon einai 
ton de koimomenon hekaston eis idion apostrephesthai
 




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tuna <tuna2@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-25 04:43:59 
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"MACE" <MACE  2008-04-25 20:29:39 
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DangCSvietnam <DangCSv  2008-04-25 06:41:29 
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Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-04-25 19:31:24 
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"Jakub A. Krzewicki&  2008-04-27 00:12:17 
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"Jakub A. Krzewicki&  2008-04-27 00:12:42 
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Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-04-27 08:44:45 
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"Jakub A. Krzewicki&  2008-04-29 12:04:15 
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Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-04-29 10:13:48 
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"Jakub A. Krzewicki&  2008-04-29 18:41:23 
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Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-05-01 02:28:56 
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"Jakub A. Krzewicki&  2008-05-01 23:30:58 
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Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-05-02 04:21:08 
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"Jakub A. Krzewicki&  2008-05-02 10:55:08 
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Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-05-03 04:00:16 
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"Jakub A. Krzewicki&  2008-05-04 01:29:29 
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Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-05-04 06:35:41 
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"Jakub A. Krzewicki&  2008-05-04 13:06:01 
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Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-05-04 07:20:12 
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"Jakub A. Krzewicki&  2008-05-04 14:00:40 
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Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-05-04 08:18:47 
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"Jakub A. Krzewicki&  2008-05-04 14:43:47 
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Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-05-04 09:12:06 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-05 15:46:26 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-05 15:45:26 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-05 15:43:28 
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"MACE" <MACE  2008-04-26 16:18:11 
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Lproudman@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-04-25 07:20:28 
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xi <xieu.ling@[EMAIL P  2008-04-25 07:44:10 
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bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-25 09:53:47 
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tang@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-25 13:15:15 
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DangCSvietnam <DangCSv  2008-04-25 16:39:53 
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Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-04-25 20:46:14 
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pg <penang@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-25 16:50:52 
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Volt <voltchakhaluz@[E  2008-04-25 18:16:14 
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Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-04-25 22:34:41 
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Yaya Kimura <venuschas  2008-04-26 02:00:26 
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RuyenRang <ruyenrangvi  2008-04-26 08:33:11 
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DangCSvietnam <DangCSv  2008-04-27 07:49:33 
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Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-04-27 21:03:38 
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DangCSvietnam <DangCSv  2008-04-27 18:25:38 
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Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-04-28 01:16:54 
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DangCSvietnam <DangCSv  2008-04-29 06:31:30 
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DangCSvietnam <DangCSv  2008-04-29 06:48:33 
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Volt <voltchakhaluz@[E  2008-04-29 18:16:42 
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jimzorn@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-01 21:21:09 

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