Re: Beijing 'to talk to Dalai aides'

On Sun, 04 May 2008 01:29:29 +0200, "Jakub A. Krzewicki"
<ebredel@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>sobota, 3 maja 2008 10:00. carbon entity 'Raymond' <niday@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>contaminated talk.politics.tibet with the following letter:
>
>
>> You are done. There is nothing more for me to say about your
>> ignorance. Magic is nothing but a delusion. 
>
>Like the approximate 85% of the Average Joes' perception of reality.
> 
>> Wake up or go to hell.
>
>Domo arigato. A good roundhouse kick, Ray. 
>
>Try also tell it to the poor old beggar woman who risked persecutions by
>smuggling her prayer to Dalai Lama or his return through giving it to the
>American visitor in Lhasa completely unknown to her. Why she was so
>persistent in her hopeless efforts like many of Tibetans despite she was
>not a former governing class member: neither a feudal gyalmo nor a lama?

Because she was duped by the evil that still exists in Tibetan
culture. There are evil elements in almost all cultures. Culture is
the fertile ground to breed evil. The more closed a culture is, the
more evil it becomes. That is why the modern democratic open society
is the best society for all people to live in.
 
>It really sounded to me (as a person brought up nn the atmosphere of
Polish
>patriotism and love of liberty despite the Soviet occupation) like a
>science fiction novel of "what would happen if the Russians made a 16th
>republic of USSR from Poland". They also are until now in a delusion that
>Poland is a part of Russia. "Kuritsa ne ptitsa, Pol'sha ne zagranitsa"
---
>tells the Russian proverb --- "Chicken is not a bird, Poland is not
>foreign". Doesn't it this obvious lie (and likewise lie of the Ottoman
Turk
>Empire about Bulgaria in 1870s) remind enough the analogical Chinese
>statements about Tibet?
>
>Maybe Tibetan or another religion is a kind of infernal delusion, maybe
>Tibetan, Polish, Bulgarian, American or another patriotism is a kind of
>idiotism, but I wouldn't want neither you nor me to find on the place of
>this poor old woman. In such a case Russian patriotism is the same
delusion
>as Polish one and also Chinese patriotism can be the same delusion as
>Tibetan patriotism.

Just because a poor woman is duped to believe in evil, doesn't mean
she has the right to destroy herself and her society by pursuing evil.
That is not patriotism. That is utter foolishness under the disguise
of patriotism and religious loyalty.

>
>No matter how evil and corrupt government Tibetans can have, my opinion
is
>that it would be better for them to have their own government for which
>they would be responsible themselves than to have an occupational
>government sup****ted by foreign army.

The current Tibetan government is not an occupational government. It
is run by former Tibetan slaves who are the real masters in the land
of Tibet today. Just because they have been loyal Communists since the
day they were free from the Devil(dalai) Lama's feudal rule, doesn't
mean they have become Hans by taking over the control of the Tibetan
government.


>
>> End of story.
>
>It will be the real end when the complicated karmic debts of humanity
will
>be balanced at least in a rough approximation. I don't think any of us
can
>live to see the arrival of Kalki Rudrachakrin or another culture hero
from
>the popular prophecies, so nor me nor you are capable in 100% to
understand
>what is the best for the East, I think we can have another opinions on
this
>matter and not be in paticularly bad relations. Like a quote of a hero in
>the Russian movie White sun of the Desert, "Vostok eto ton'koe delo" ---
>"The East is a delicate matter". It can refer to any so difficult matter
>(not necessarily Eastern) that is no simple view which can exhaust its
>complexity.

What is the best for the East or anybody else is not something that
really concerns you. You should be worried about what is the best for
yourself by being a moral busybody.